Hamster,Mouse, Guinea pig shavins?

[wildlifewarrior]

Originally Posted by Jczreptiles

Do you know which ones are safe to use? I have read the info on some and it contains traces of pine but others don't.

For example:-
Lucky reptile bark
it says its perfectly safe to use and no where on the back of the bag does it say it contains pine at all...so in shops its awesome and cheap and seems very safe

but now lets look on a website who have had people buy it and had snakes die and complain about it....and then its found to have pine in it ...thus the website state it .

such as this
Livefood UK Ltd.

[steve d]

put it this way it has been known to kill over long periods of time ive known people that have used shavings for years and got away with it but i personally wouldnt risk either

[Jczreptiles]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

For example:-
Lucky reptile bark
it says its perfectly safe to use and no where on the back of the bag does it say it contains pine at all...so in shops its awesome and cheap and seems very safe

but now lets look on a website who have had people buy it and had snakes die and complain about it....and then its found to have pine in it ...thus the website state it .

such as this
Livefood UK Ltd.

I'm suprised they can sell it then.
I've always used orchid bark and never had a problem, do certain snakes react differently?

[wildlifewarrior]

Originally Posted by steve d

put it this way it has been known to kill over long periods of time ive known people that have used shavings for years and got away with it but i personally wouldnt risk either

completely agree

Originally Posted by Jczreptiles

I'm suprised they can sell it then.
I've always used orchid bark and never had a problem, do certain snakes react differently?

its like smoking....my nieghbour smoked from 14-88 years and never got cancer.

[Jczreptiles]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

completely agree



its like smoking....my nieghbour smoked from 14-88 years and never got cancer.

Thanks to you both for giving me this info I will stop using it, is there anything similar thats safe and also hold humidity except eco earth? I have use it for so long I have never really looked into anything else.

[wildlifewarrior]

Originally Posted by Jczreptiles

Thanks to you both for giving me this info I will stop using it, is there anything similar thats safe and also hold humidity except eco earth? I have use it for so long I have never really looked into anything else.

Yep i use crushed coconut...100% coconut, its freeze dried,vacuum packed and boiled so free from nasties aswell

Livefood UK Ltd.

[Jczreptiles]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

Yep i use crushed coconut...100% coconut, its freeze dried,vacuum packed and boiled so free from nasties aswell

Livefood UK Ltd.

Okay chears mate

[snakeguy86]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

Yep i use crushed coconut...100% coconut, its freeze dried,vacuum packed and boiled so free from nasties aswell

Livefood UK Ltd.

iv got a bag of coconut but iv never used it coz it looks really dusty

[hillzi]

Originally Posted by Jczreptiles

Thanks to you both for giving me this info I will stop using it, is there anything similar thats safe and also hold humidity except eco earth? I have use it for so long I have never really looked into anything else.

Erm, moss? I think eco-earth is that humus thing too.

I think its the dust and fumes from the pine can mess with snakeys breathing, windpipe, lungs etc. Not nice.

I'm quite suprised no ones mentioned cedar, from what I've read/heard that can be pretty dangerous too.

[SexyBear77]

Originally Posted by hillzi

I'm quite suprised no ones mentioned cedar, from what I've read/heard that can be pretty dangerous too.

Excuse me!!!

I mentioned cedar.