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[Taiga_Shinjiro]

Hey
I've been offered a baby royal.....
But my local council already said I cant have a corn snake as they "get too big".....pfft....stupid council...

My tenancy says I'm not allowed "dangerous" animals-
Just wanted to know how big royals get-

And for any people living in council flats, whether you own any snakes and whether anyone's said anything about them! =)

I'm thinking I should just- get said snake (I've been wanting one for aaages but limited myself to geckos.
Then, if it ever becomes an issue, say that they should prove its dangerous or its not going anywhere.
The council will have a hard time finding solid evidence that royals are dangerous, they'll just allow me to keep it?

What do you think?

[Ssthisto]

Royals get to the same length and are about three times thicker and a lot heavier than a corn of similar length.

I would ask your council what they believe is a 'safe' length - and then find a snake that doesn't normally exceed that. If they think five to six feet is too big, you're probably looking at house snakes, sand boas, rosy boas, hognoses and other small but stocky snakes.

That said, I'm sure there have been VERY few hospitalisations and no deaths due to sub-10-foot non-venomous snakes in the UK.

[mooselee]

i would ignore the council and get the royal just don't let them in if they come snooping and don't tell too many people you keep it sorted !

[rock-steady]

A freind of mine lives in a council flat and has a bci with no problems

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by mooselee

i would ignore the council and get the royal just don't let them in if they come snooping and don't tell too many people you keep it sorted !

But if it's a council owned flat, doesn't the landlord have the right to inspect?

And why give other reptile keepers who are renting a bad name by making it look like we'll ALL try to hide our animals if we're not allowed to have them by the terms of our housing contract? (Though the bank and I own my house, it's still a valid observation...)

I mean, wouldn't you scream bloody murder if your landlord didn't fix the heating in your flat block on time? Not doing so is a breach of contract... well, so is bringing in a pet that's not allowed by the terms of the contract.

Better to get permission than have to find a new home because you assumed you could ask forgiveness later and turned out to be wrong.

[tricky]

thats terrible you cant have a small snake like a corn - really stingy

[Fangio]

Originally Posted by Ssthisto

But if it's a council owned flat, doesn't the landlord have the right to inspect?

And why give other reptile keepers who are renting a bad name by making it look like we'll ALL try to hide our animals if we're not allowed to have them by the terms of our housing contract? (Though the bank and I own my house, it's still a valid observation...)

I mean, wouldn't you scream bloody murder if your landlord didn't fix the heating in your flat block on time? Not doing so is a breach of contract... well, so is bringing in a pet that's not allowed by the terms of the contract.

Better to get permission than have to find a new home because you assumed you could ask forgiveness later and turned out to be wrong.

You don't have to let council officials inside the premises

I've not asked for permission for most of my lot. I asked for permission for a pair of corn snakes and a leopard gecko when I moved in. I come here with 21 snakes (one of which was at the time a 10ft burm), few lizards, 2 turtles and since got a bengal cat which the housing officer must be aware of as I put a cat-flap in the front door (without asking).

Basically if no-one complains to them then there's no problem. The moment a neighbour kicks up a fuss though it'd create probs. Luckily I get on with all my neighbours (new one has moved in though so we'll see what happens). They don't like snakes but seem ok with me having them.

[Fangio]

Originally Posted by Taiga_Shinjiro

Hey
I've been offered a baby royal.....
But my local council already said I cant have a corn snake as they "get too big".....pfft....stupid council...

My tenancy says I'm not allowed "dangerous" animals-
Just wanted to know how big royals get-

And for any people living in council flats, whether you own any snakes and whether anyone's said anything about them! =)

I'm thinking I should just- get said snake (I've been wanting one for aaages but limited myself to geckos.
Then, if it ever becomes an issue, say that they should prove its dangerous or its not going anywhere.
The council will have a hard time finding solid evidence that royals are dangerous, they'll just allow me to keep it?

What do you think?

Tell the council they are not listed under the dangerous wild animals act and pose no serious risk to any human.

[mooselee]

just tell them the only danger Royals pose is to your wallet as you collect more and more.

[Taiga_Shinjiro]

Well,
Theres no specific clause on my tenancy agreement that says i'm *not allowed one?