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Old 20-06-2012, 04:10 PM
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So many know I got this amazing baby spider ball


I tried to feed him frozen sunday and he didnt eat it so I left it over night.
The day after I see he havnt touched it so I give it to my other snake.
then today I tried frozen again but he do the same roll into a ball and hide his head not even looking what I got like he is a scared puppy.
Now I fed him a live and he happly ate it that was the only time I saw him pick his head out.

Anyone can give me a tip? should I hold him more so he get more used to me or should I just give him live food, some say they out grow it? but that sound abit weird.
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Old 20-06-2012, 04:11 PM
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It's FAR too soon to be considering live yet. Let him settle in and try him once a week with defrosted items, no handling in between
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Old 20-06-2012, 04:13 PM
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It's FAR too soon to be considering live yet. Let him settle in and try him once a week with defrosted items, no handling in between
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Were you warming it? braining it?
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Old 20-06-2012, 04:20 PM
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just leave the snake alone for at least a week,
all you are doing is stressing it right out by keep offering feed after feed!!
dont open the rub except to do a clean or water change,
dont handle at all,
warm up a defrost rat in warm not boiling water,
dip just the head in boiling water for a few seconds and pat dry.
then offer on tongs to your royal,
should do the trick,...works really well for us.
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Old 20-06-2012, 04:21 PM
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okay thanks guys
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Definitely warm it first. What i do is put the food, in its bag, on top of the heat lamp. It defrosts and gets nice and warm, and my royal took three mice in his first feed 7 days after i brought him home. I wouldn't go straight to live, i would first warm the food up (mine is warm from defrosting it on a hot surface), try braining it, try dangling it for a strike feed, put the food in then cover the viv with a dark blanket so the snake feels secure, and fresh killed. If none of those work i'd possibly consider a live feed
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Old 20-06-2012, 04:44 PM
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At the risk of being hung, drawn & quartered whjy is it to soon to live feed, it isn't illegal, well as long as it's not for gratuitous pleasure, & as long as it's supervised to ensure no danger to snake.

And before anybody says Ball's are fussy eaters, yes I know they are, I've kept them previously, watched pensively for weeks/months when they decisde not to eat/tried all the tricks in the book & a few more/sighed with releif when they finally munch a gerbil.

I'm not saying OP should live feed, I just don't get this its to soon to live feed, if OP is happy to live feed/has a supply/does it under supervision etc I don't see an issue.

I have live fed/assist/ fed/force fed when required, far easier if you don't have to but when in Rome . . .

As said, please don't shoot
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At the risk of being hung, drawn & quartered whjy is it to soon to live feed, it isn't illegal, well as long as it's not for gratuitous pleasure, & as long as it's supervised to ensure no danger to snake.

And before anybody says Ball's are fussy eaters, yes I know they are, I've kept them previously, watched pensively for weeks/months when they decisde not to eat/tried all the tricks in the book & a few more/sighed with releif when they finally munch a gerbil.

I'm not saying OP should live feed, I just don't get this its to soon to live feed, if OP is happy to live feed/has a supply/does it under supervision etc I don't see an issue.

I have live fed/assist/ fed/force fed when required, far easier if you don't have to but when in Rome . . .

As said, please don't shoot
I understand your point however I think the general consensus is that we should attempt all other methods before using live due to the fact that feeding live is stressful for the feeder animal and can lead to injuries for the reptile.

If you can get a snake to eat a warmed up, brained animal then it makes sense to do that on an ethical basis than feed live.
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