H.gigas

[GRB]

Just out of interest, but has anyone looked into the legalities of using fish this way?

I know vertebrate livefood is OK but fish are legislated quite heavily when it comes to research, so I thought it might be a blanket sort of thing. It might be worth looking into, as the only other people I know of using fish are US keepers where the laws are rather lax.

The more I think about it, I actually see this as rather cruel. I'm not saying people can't do it, but I would not have such a set up myself. And please, before anyone enters the debate of using livefood etc, I am being biased here - I do actually quite like fish and find them just as interesting as tarantulas I suppose it would be like myself feeding Ts to other Ts....it happens in the wild but that is one area I am just not willing to replicate in captivity.

[TEENY]

Originally Posted by GRB

Just out of interest, but has anyone looked into the legalities of using fish this way?

I know vertebrate livefood is OK but fish are legislated quite heavily when it comes to research, so I thought it might be a blanket sort of thing. It might be worth looking into, as the only other people I know of using fish are US keepers where the laws are rather lax.

The more I think about it, I actually see this as rather cruel. I'm not saying people can't do it, but I would not have such a set up myself. And please, before anyone enters the debate of using livefood etc, I am being biased here - I do actually quite like fish and find them just as interesting as tarantulas I suppose it would be like myself feeding Ts to other Ts....it happens in the wild but that is one area I am just not willing to replicate in captivity.

I have looked into it and found nothing against only something about using small feeder fish.
I cannot see how it would be any more cruel than feeding any other live foods, cricks locusts and stuff tbh.

[GRB]

Originally Posted by TEENY

I have looked into it and found nothing against only something about using small feeder fish.
I cannot see how it would be any more cruel than feeding any other live foods, cricks locusts and stuff tbh.

Because invertebrates and vertebrates are not equivalent in how they perceive, respond to and assess pain stimuli.

If they were no different, they would not be legislated any higher than invertebrates. The major basis of the legislation is based upon pain sense and cognitive ability. Trust me when I say that even as a sympathetic arachnologist, I would argue that invertebrates do not compare to vertebrates in such organisation and cognitive abilities.

[_TiMiSdRuNk_]

I'd buy a 3 foot tank and half it out as half dry and half water (a bit like some turtle set ups) and try to get the water pretty deep too, and make sure it is a gigas you get as none of the others can swim :P

[_TiMiSdRuNk_]

I'm pretty interested to see how this pans out so i've been looking some of it up for you :P Well take a look at this......

YouTube - MM H Gigas swim 9 3

They SWIM!!!!

[snowgoose]

Right after more research into legalities. I have found the following,

In the UK, the Animal Welfare Act 2006 prohibits deliberate and “unnecessary suffering” to animals, but contrary to widespread belief, it does not explicitly outlaw the feeding of live feeder fish to other fish. However, it does prohibit introducing two animals for the purpose of “fighting, wrestling or baiting”. Nonetheless, the assumption is that a legal case could be made to class the use of feeder fish as a “fight” and though as-yet untried in the courts, the risk of such a prosecution has led many retailers and hobbyists simply to treat the use of feeder fish in the UK as illegal.

I will be doing more research into this and contacting the appropriate bodies, and then will see what happens.

[MissyBats]

it says feeder fish to other fish is so far legal, would that be the same for a t?
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[snowgoose]

Originally Posted by MissyBats

it says feeder fish to other fish is so far legal, would that be the same for a t?
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That's what I need to find out, but I have to try and find the right person to ask.

[Herpalist]

I set up a part pond in my girls enclosure but she paid no interest at all. Only thing she did do was to chuck a load of substrate into it night after night!! I agree with the earlier poster in that H Gigas are indeed Pet Holes.

[Kyle T's]

by the sounds of it u cant have the fish for fighting purposes but u are aloud to use feeder fish as food for other fish etc. for e.g knowingly having two male fish competing for territory/mates is illegal where as using feeder fish for ur bamboo shark isn't. So i don't see why buying feeder fish for feeding purposes no matter what animal is illegal or wrong in anyway. I also don't think its cruel but i can see how and why some people do, Maybe do some research on what fish are maybe over populated or a nuisance and see if its similar to what fish these T's eat in the wild. u will probably find that most of these T's will hunt on land first. i think it would look really cool and looking forward to seeing the finishing product. you have my vote