H.gigas

[snowgoose]

Originally Posted by Kyle T's

by the sounds of it u cant have the fish for fighting purposes but u are aloud to use feeder fish as food for other fish etc. for e.g knowingly having two male fish competing for territory/mates is illegal where as using feeder fish for ur bamboo shark isn't. So i don't see why buying feeder fish for feeding purposes no matter what animal is illegal or wrong in anyway. I also don't think its cruel but i can see how and why some people do, Maybe do some research on what fish are maybe over populated or a nuisance and see if its similar to what fish these T's eat in the wild. u will probably find that most of these T's will hunt on land first. i think it would look really cool and looking forward to seeing the finishing product. you have my vote

Thanks, It's gonna be a hell of a build if I get it right. I'm looking at spending about £400 for everything including fish and T, so by no means cheap either, but should keep me busy over the next few months.

Small fish wise, I'm looking at things along the lines of Tetras

[swiss]

I would say feeding fish to a T is a no-no.

I used to feed live goldfish to my Pirahna which IS legal. I can understand this as what else could you realisticly use?

However, that statement above mentions “unnecessary suffering”. Since your T would be more than happy on a diet of crickets, locusts, roaches etc, I would say, personally, that the fish would be “unnecessarily suffering”. It also mentions "baiting", which in a way you would be doing (i.e. putting the fish in the enclosure to see if, or maybe even hoping that, the T would eat it).

[snowgoose]

Originally Posted by swiss

I would say feeding fish to a T is a no-no.

I used to feed live goldfish to my Pirahna which IS legal. I can understand this as what else could you realisticly use?

However, that statement above mentions “unnecessary suffering”. Since your T would be more than happy on a diet of crickets, locusts, roaches etc, I would say, personally, that the fish would be “unnecessarily suffering”. It also mentions "baiting", which in a way you would be doing (i.e. putting the fish in the enclosure to see if, or maybe even hoping that, the T would eat it).

Feeding goldfish to something like predatory fish is not illegal, so I have no idea where you got that information.

And the suffering I don't see as they will be having a good life up until the T eats them, which by that point they will be dead due to the poison.

[GRB]

Originally Posted by swiss

I would say feeding fish to a T is a no-no.

I used to feed live goldfish to my Pirahna which IS legal. I can understand this as what else could you realisticly use?

However, that statement above mentions “unnecessary suffering”. Since your T would be more than happy on a diet of crickets, locusts, roaches etc, I would say, personally, that the fish would be “unnecessarily suffering”. It also mentions "baiting", which in a way you would be doing (i.e. putting the fish in the enclosure to see if, or maybe even hoping that, the T would eat it).

+1.

I would deem this as unnecessary feeding.

I'm mainly posting this to make people aware that fish are tightly regulated, and I don't want to see people get into trouble.

I think opinions would change after seeing fish being eaten anyway. It's certainly not going to be a quick thing in many cases, and the time until death will be painful. Even if people believe that insects can feel pain, they have a much more diffuse nerve system so any pain a vertebrate feels will be much more resolute.

[GRB]

Originally Posted by snowgoose

Feeding goldfish to something like predatory fish is not illegal, so I have no idea where you got that information.

And the suffering I don't see as they will be having a good life up until the T eats them, which by that point they will be dead due to the poison.

Since when is T poison particularly fast acting? I've observed prey insects struggle for in excess of 40 minutes quite regularly, and they are the main prey the toxin evolved to combat.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by snowgoose

Feeding goldfish to something like predatory fish is not illegal, so I have no idea where you got that information.

And the suffering I don't see as they will be having a good life up until the T eats them, which by that point they will be dead due to the poison.

If you read what I wrote, I actually said that feeding live fish to my Pirahna is LEGAL...as in NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

I wouldn't really have too much of a problem with you feeding live fish to your T. I'm only saying that with the array of food already available that your T would be willing to eat...it could be deemed "unnecessary" to feed it live fish.

Also, by your own admission, the fish would die from the spider's venom...“unnecessarily suffering” perhaps??? It's not like its dying from natural causes is it?

All I'm saying is that this is clearly a "grey area" and while it remains so, wouldn't it be better to stick to traditonal methods of feeding, such as crickets, etc...?

[snowgoose]

Originally Posted by swiss

If you read what I wrote, I actually said that feeding live fish to my Pirahna is LEGAL...as in NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

I wouldn't really have too much of a problem with you feeding live fish to your T. I'm only saying that with the array of food already available that your T would be willing to eat...it could be deemed "unnecessary" to feed it live fish.

Also, by your own admission, the fish would die from the spider's venom...“unnecessarily suffering” perhaps??? It's not like its dying from natural causes is it?

All I'm saying is that this is clearly a "grey area" and while it remains so, wouldn't it be better to stick to traditonal methods of feeding, such as crickets, etc...?

Sorry, misread your reply.

Once I find a definitive answer to whether it is legal or not, then I will work from there. If it is legal, then it is definitely something I would like to try out. If not then I will still have an area of water allowing the T to swim if it wishes.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by snowgoose

Sorry, misread your reply.

Once I find a definitive answer to whether it is legal or not, then I will work from there. If it is legal, then it is definitely something I would like to try out. If not then I will still have an area of water allowing the T to swim if it wishes.

I think that would be your best bet.

Just so you know, I wasn't jumping on your back on the fish issue mate. It honestly would not matter to me either way. I was just talking from a "regulators" point of view...don't want you to get in any trouble like! And if it is found to be legal, then by all means go for it, I would! It would be very interesting to see a T "fishing". Youtube video perhaps?

Anyways, the setup sounds like its going to be awesome.

[Danhalen]

Just so you know, fish scales contain quite a lot of calcium. As such, I'd not recommend them as a tarantula food item.