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Old 28-02-2008, 10:55 PM
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A new petition has been raised which is aimed at all animal keepers - mammal, primate, reptile, invertebrate, aquatic and avian.

As a society of animal lovers we must show to those whom do oppose the keeping of animals and exotic species that we are responsible keepers, that we do have the right to maintain within our collections.

Indeed as responsible owners we too care for the conditions in which these animals are kept, and that we also agree whole heartily with the need for increased legislation promoting codes of practice, enforcement, licensing where so required, creating awareness, animals rights, but also that keepers have rights.

Not just aimed at private keepers, but also at the traders, manufacturers, suppliers, and retailers, basically anyone involved with the industry.

I ask of you now, to please join us, sign your name, show that support.
I would ask of retailers to have a copy of this in their shops so that we can appeal to the land based market that are not involved with forums so that they too can pledge their support, the same l would ask of forums to sticky this petition post, as indeed would l ask of all Website masters to place a link into their websites.

This petition needs to be signed, it needs to show the opposition and the government that as keepers of animals both exotic and domestic that we are responsible in our ownership, and that we too do care for our animals.

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"Captive care keepers in the United Kingdom believe that they have the right to maintain exotic animal species within their collections. Many oppose the keeping of animals, many more oppose the keeping of exotic species, be these, mammal, primate, avian, reptile, aquatic or invertebrate.

With increased legislation under the new animal welfare act such as codes of practice, enforcement, education, regulation, communication and awareness there should be no genuine reasons for the government to encourage the opposition to continue their campaigns to cease this.

Responsible ownership and husbandry, promotion of both keepers and animals rights also feature very heavily upon the minds of those that do keep animals privately. All keepers therefore call for support from the government rather than condemnation"

Petition to: Support private exotic captive care keepers.

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Old 28-02-2008, 11:24 PM
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Will pass it around relevant friends and other keepers i know.

Government needs to made aware that this isnt a mickey mouse hobby and we are a very serious group of concientious and knowledgeable people.
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Old 29-02-2008, 01:59 AM
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This is true Zak.

The two petitions currently in action are specifically aimed at the Government as well as the opposition.

And the more keepers that sign them, the stronger the voice will become.

The more keepers that turn away from this style of approach now, the harder it will be in the future.

The government at this present time view this as a small 'niche' activity.

Imagine that, animal keeping is regarded as a niche community, upwards of 35 million people in the UK keep animals, a mixture of both exotic and domestic alike and many keep both types, and yet the current emotion from the government is that it is a niche?

And if people can not be bothered to sign - well then it just verifies to those whom oppose that it is just that - a niche community.

These two petitions, especially the primate one have already been viewed by the pro keeping political side as dangerous ................ why?

Because apparently we might upset the opposition?

Really .............. ? How is that?

The pro political side to keeping exotics would prefer for us to be quiet, and yet when no support is displayed, this is looked upon as apathy, yet when we try and display support, they become angry and attack us with it?

Why?

Because the opposition in the UK, the anti community - which by the way only number roughly 6 million, can produce much higer results when they produce petitions, from their 6 M supporters and the 15 Million empathists that really don't know any differently.

So they could push come to shove, produce petitions against us in the average of say 18+ million, but in reality, they would only need to procure 100K signatures to have these petitions flattened, and that kind of signature power would prove to the government that we were as keepers whom care, not carers at all.

So the antis can basically get a petition link onto their face books, blogs, websites, lobbying stations, shops, granters and so on, and within a couple of weeks push for 100K signatures.

And do you know what, well Government listens to that kind of talking.

The antis have a singular goal in life - to stop people like us.

Our singular goal?

Who on earth truly knows!

It should be the same as them, but the opposite - to continue to be able to keep exotic animals, be these mammals, primates, reptiles, invertebrates, aquatic or avian.

Is that so hard to want to fight for?

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Old 29-02-2008, 11:25 AM
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well done, this gets my full support has been added to my home page, forum and facebook. It takes seconds to show your support and is very easy to do.
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Old 29-02-2008, 03:59 PM
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To all of this readership whom have signed already, l thank you.

With increased legislations since the arrival of the Animal Welfare Act 2007, we must now in this year really show to those whom oppose that we are everything we pertain ourselves to be - that is responsible carers.

There can be no earthly reason for you not to want to sign this petition or indeed the primate petition;

Petition to: 'allow the keeping of primates by private keepers'.

They are here for the private keepers, this is the way forwards for the opposition in both anti and Governmental to see we are genuine in our wishes and desires to remain keepers and not be subjected to the whims of those who think we can not maintain exotics correctly.

Please, sign.

Petition to: Support private exotic captive care keepers.

Do it now, and you will not have to do it later on in the year.

Sign now, show your support, link it, place it on your websites, place a petition in your local retailer.

The legislation is only going to get harder, currently we have 66 signatures for Exotic Species, and 80 for Primate Keeping. Combined we have 146 signatures.

When the antis counter attack and they will, they could have this in the first twenty minutes!

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Old 29-02-2008, 04:02 PM
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signed ..also dont think that this is just" another petition " these people are trying to restrict what we take for granted they WILL continue to threaten our rights to keep anything !!

please sign this guys
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Old 29-02-2008, 04:20 PM
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would you mind if copied and pasted the original post and the petitions on to another exotics forum??
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Old 29-02-2008, 04:40 PM
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Hi Paulskin,

Crikey no, l do not mind at all, l welcome it, let me know the link and then l will also display it here:

TSKA - Rainbow | Exotic Species Consultancy Services

I really want to see as many keepers, traders, retailers, forums, websites, manufactuers, basically as said, everybody involved with the hobby, the keeping, the business.

We need these signatures to prove to a Government that we are worth considering and we need a lot.

The smoking petition fetched 20K sigs, and still they lost that, and look at how many smokers there are.

Well all keepers of all animals need to sign these petitions, the antis class all animals now as exotics, so that means all of you are NOW classed as exotics keepers.

If you think my writings in political issues and husbandry issues are annoying, then you will hate me at the end of this, but we do need to push for people to sign.

Chris Newman last year brought out this petition:

Petition to: Support Pet Keeping.

It closes tomorrow with 897 signatures!

Roger Davies brought this one out:

Petition to: Hold a public enquiry into the polices and running of the RSPCA.

It closed July 2007 with 2,029 Signatures, and it was beaten

Steve Lovell brought this one out:

Petition to: To Allow the De-scenting of Skunks.

It closes in November and only has 34 signatures

Whether you agree with skunks being descented or primates being kept, is not irrelevant, but the prime factor here is this:

Its time to unite, allow them to ban the keeping of this, prohibit the procedure of that, it is all about reducing the ability to keep animals, exotics.

We are the antis biggest enemy, and they are more powerful than us financially, but not in sheer number of people who support.

Its worth thinking about, but above everything else, your animals are worth fighting for, aren't they?

R

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ps: RFUK has 11,000+ members, now allowing for some of those that are double signed, we still have a huge membership here, as do the other forums l have posted on. With those numbers and allowing again for combined membership, this equates to some 19K+ signatures, this as a figure would be staggering for the internet signature power alone!

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Old 29-02-2008, 05:10 PM
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Not sure if i should be saying this but, if they ban it they will just be creating 1 more criminal as i for definate will not be giving up any of my reps.
The government can stick it up there ass!

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Old 29-02-2008, 08:50 PM
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