Hop Farm Reptile Weekend (Kent) - Page 10

peterf · #91 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McCarroll

I am not in a position to chat about my business partners finances. Nor can I comment on supposed rental costs of the hop farm.

Two separate businesses.

Hi Rocco, I understand exactly what you are saying.
I am refering to Mark Brann who is the owner of Exotic Pet Centre. I do not know Mark Mcarroll but, by his own admission he is business partners with Mark Brann. Whether this is, as stated by the newspaper, in the pet centre or not, I do not know.
I am passing my opinion on my experiences with one of these individuals.
Mark Brann received goods from my company, sold them and never paid for them.
These are facts and its a shame that the law does little do assist in the non payment of debts.
County Court judgments have no teeth and are a waste of money and time in trying to recover debts.

rocco · #92 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:21 PM

"Freedom of speech on the net questioned after libel award for comments in a Chat-room"

After an investigation to discover the real identity of the chat-room users who insulted him, Mr
Keith-Smith decided to begin court action against them by means of two different libel claims.
One of these actions was actually settled before trial for the amount of £30,000. However the
second action reached the court, which pronounced in favour of Mr Keith-Smith, awarding damages in
the sum of £10,000 together with £7,200 representing costs and the obligation for the defendant to
never repeat such allegations against Mr Keith-Smith.
This case is one of the few defamation cases between private individuals to go to court as usually
the parties endeavour to settle before trial.

Ref: Intellectual Property and Corporate Law - Lawdit Commercial Solicitors

pam b · #93 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:33 PM

So Mark, to clarify, you have no financial interest or partnership in the shop, but are partners in the Amazon to Outback experrience?
Is that what you are saying?

Ruth · #94 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McCarroll

3. With regards to the statement made in relation to people not being able to see the reptiles or get the experience that they have given money for, this is a comment that has not been thought through. The conservation park will use technology such as endoscopes and digital video to ensure that the paying public receive a memorable experience. The park will offer nocturnal experiences for people to experience night time activity.

My point still remain and that being, reptile enthusiasts may well pay for a return visit even if they do not see the animals in the flesh, however if the general public do not get to see the animals in the flesh they may well not, after all, you can watch animals in their truly natural habitat on the TV for free so why would they pay out for a return visit just to watch a digital video?

Ruth

garysumpter · #95 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:34 PM

I for one won't be going :p

pam b · #96 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocco

Hi peter,

Speaking as a lawyer i would like to inform you of the following:

Defamation of character is a right of legal action against someone, or an organisation, who has communicated statements that may harm an individual's character or reputation i.e. defame it. The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts (civil wrongs for which damages may be claimed) of libel and slander. Libel is primarily a published, written form of defamation - though it can also include films, statues and effigies. Slander is any spoken, unpublished defamation.

Then you will also know as a lawyer, that the onus is on the person claiming defamation to prove their innocence, strange but true, if you claim defamation you have to prove you are right, the other person doesnt have to prove what they said is right, you have to prove what they said is a lie!!!

Edit,
and can i say how supprising yet again another newbie has entered, 6 posts all in this thread, can admin check against ~~Amazon's IP perchance?

pam b · #97 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McCarroll

Hi,

This will be my last post on this subject. A little bit of a Q&A.

1. Amazon to Outback is a totally independent venture to the Exotic Pet Centre therefore there is no financial connection between the two.

2. All money received from the event will be put back into the conservation park. Full funding has been received for the park but there are many ways to look at the phrase "full funding". Mine being that you can never input enough money into conservation.
As you will be able to read, each year the conservation park will be buying acres of rainforest throughout the world to protect it from deforestation.

3. With regards to the statement made in relation to people not being able to see the reptiles or get the experience that they have given money for, this is a comment that has not been thought through. The conservation park will use technology such as endoscopes and digital video to ensure that the paying public receive a memorable experience. The park will offer nocturnal experiences for people to experience night time activity.

4. Myself and other members of Amazon to Outback state that we have no connection with "amazon" as would appear through statements made by forum users.

After making the above statement I would hope that I have answered any unanswered questions/concerns and would formally like to invite you all to attend my event and give your support to the issue of the day which is CONSERVATION.

Many thanks

Mark McCarroll

No you havnt answered all the questions and some have been skimmed over with a vague reply.

Again i decline your kind offer to attend.

Ruth · #98 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McCarroll

2. All money received from the event will be put back into the conservation park. Full funding has been received for the park but there are many ways to look at the phrase "full funding". Mine being that you can never input enough money into conservation.
As you will be able to read, each year the conservation park will be buying acres of rainforest throughout the world to protect it from deforestation.

Again quoting from the newspaper article:

The success of Amazon to Outback will determine whether the proposals will get the go-ahead for Forgotten World Conservation Park.

So, if the event does not go how you wish and you do NOT get the go ahead, where then are these fund going to go?

Ruth

fazer600sy · #99 (**permalink**) 23-04-2008, 11:22 PM

Thread locked as requested.

Maureen Collinson · #**100** (**permalink**) 24-04-2008, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amazon

What seems to be your problem Maureen. Through the grape vine I've heard all about you and your shenanigans. I don't think you're in a position to bad mouth anybody when you're history with the R.S.P.C.A is now available for all to see on-line via a particular government sight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocco

"Freedom of speech on the net questioned after libel award for comments in a Chat-room"

After an investigation to discover the real identity of the chat-room users who insulted him, Mr
Keith-Smith decided to begin court action against them by means of two different libel claims.
One of these actions was actually settled before trial for the amount of £30,000. However the
second action reached the court, which pronounced in favour of Mr Keith-Smith, awarding damages in
the sum of £10,000 together with £7,200 representing costs and the obligation for the defendant to
never repeat such allegations against Mr Keith-Smith.
This case is one of the few defamation cases between private individuals to go to court as usually
the parties endeavour to settle before trial.

Ref: Intellectual Property and Corporate Law - Lawdit Commercial Solicitors

Thanks Rocco, seems like this is the way forward for me

Would the moderators please be kind enough to ensure that the IP address of Amazon is not "lost" as of course this will be required to track the person down, whether or not it is forum policy not to divulge private information which I fully respect under normal circumstances.

Money is not the issue here, so after any costs involved in clearing my name, then I will donate any compensation if awarded to the Essex Wildlife Hospital.

Maureen

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