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Old 23-04-2008, 07:59 PM
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Jon i have to admit, i find this very unlike you , normally you have your finger right on the pulse and take in posts ect.
Now i'm finding it hard to beleive that an educated guy like yourself is not reading all the posts placed within the last 48 hours and coming to a conclusion, and if you have come to a conclusion perhaps you'd like to post your feelings then?
The posts are plain to most ,they seem to be evading you, and that i see as puzzeling!!!
Fact of the matter is posts have been placed here from either direct members (PeterF) or indeed the media (linked via search) that unfortunately throws the situation into doubt for various reasons, but i doubt you/ll have anyone that will be foolhardy enough to outright say what they think via an internet forum even if some people are happy to quote to the media and then backtrack..

Let the people decide via media links and personal experrience and evasion i say.


I dunno, seem to be a lot of personal agendas. While things are being kicked around and mud being thrown at each other. I dont actually have a decent arguement from either side. I dont know the stories behind monies owed, or acusations of things, or previous agendas. There seems to be one half of a two person team evading Q's and the other half hasnt popped up etc etc.

I guess Im just real confused now lol!!

I also try and keep an open mind on these issues and try to hope for the best so is there no way that this is a legitimate venture with no ill ideas, processes or hidden agendas?

Muchly confuzled,

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Old 23-04-2008, 08:57 PM
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Hi,

This will be my last post on this subject. A little bit of a Q&A.

1. Amazon to Outback is a totally independent venture to the Exotic Pet Centre therefore there is no financial connection between the two.

2. All money received from the event will be put back into the conservation park. Full funding has been received for the park but there are many ways to look at the phrase "full funding". Mine being that you can never input enough money into conservation.
As you will be able to read, each year the conservation park will be buying acres of rainforest throughout the world to protect it from deforestation.

3. With regards to the statement made in relation to people not being able to see the reptiles or get the experience that they have given money for, this is a comment that has not been thought through. The conservation park will use technology such as endoscopes and digital video to ensure that the paying public receive a memorable experience. The park will offer nocturnal experiences for people to experience night time activity.

4. Myself and other members of Amazon to Outback state that we have no connection with "amazon" as would appear through statements made by forum users.

After making the above statement I would hope that I have answered any unanswered questions/concerns and would formally like to invite you all to attend my event and give your support to the issue of the day which is CONSERVATION.

Many thanks

Mark McCarroll
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Old 23-04-2008, 09:15 PM
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Sorry,

One point I did forget to make clear was that about the amount of money it will take to build/start up the conservation park.
If you read the newspaper article it states that the conservation park will be "based" on the eden project. It does NOT state anywhere that the conservation park will "cost" as much as the Eden Project.

Many thanks

Mark

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Old 23-04-2008, 09:27 PM
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Peter,

FYI I have been to the Exotic Pet Centre many times over the years as I am pretty local to them.

I can honestly say that it has never been a well stocked shop, they have VERY little stock and hardly any reptiles.

I was told by a local commercial business company that the shop was for sale (but dont hold me to that.)

God knows how they have stayed open this long.

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Thanks Gary.
They stay in business by not paying their bills. They will not answer either of the two mobile numbers we have for them and the shop number "does not receive incoming calls".
I call it theft plain and simple and if Mark Brann doesn't resolve this matter soon someone will.
As there is a clear link between the two Marks, whilst I am all for conservation I wouldn't trust them with the money for a packet of crisps.

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Old 23-04-2008, 10:05 PM
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Hi peter,

Speaking as a lawyer i would like to inform you of the following:

Defamation of character is a right of legal action against someone, or an organisation, who has communicated statements that may harm an individual's character or reputation i.e. defame it. The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts (civil wrongs for which damages may be claimed) of libel and slander. Libel is primarily a published, written form of defamation - though it can also include films, statues and effigies. Slander is any spoken, unpublished defamation.
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Old 23-04-2008, 10:06 PM
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If you only know one party involved then take heed of the above.
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To be libelous my comments need to be false. Is that not the law?
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Old 23-04-2008, 10:11 PM
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You seem to be missing the point. You have had dealings with one of the two stated individuals.
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Old 23-04-2008, 10:20 PM
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Hi peter,

Speaking as a lawyer i would like to inform you of the following:

Defamation of character is a right of legal action against someone, or an organisation, who has communicated statements that may harm an individual's character or reputation i.e. defame it. The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts (civil wrongs for which damages may be claimed) of libel and slander. Libel is primarily a published, written form of defamation - though it can also include films, statues and effigies. Slander is any spoken, unpublished defamation.
Just to be clear on the above post...

When you wrote torts...did you mean courts?...T.T.
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