Why can’t people just think first…. - Page 6

fenwoman · #51 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BecciBoo

I’ve been pretty gob smacked at some threads and post recently and I personally think that its totally out of order that some people on this forum can’t just think before the open their mouths (type on there keyboards!). And then everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

People make mistakes, all the time….nobody is perfect and nobody is always right! People are getting pushed out of a hobby that they clearly love and have a passion for. And that’s what all this is about after all, a hobby…that we love and enjoy.

There are people on this forum that are full of knowledge and I am personally learning from all the time…people that keep there animals in tip top condition, people who, I for certain, inspire to be like. And yet one or two comments from people who seem to only jump in when there is an argument going on or they can slag someone off, can put these people’s lives and reputation into the limelight.

This forum is meant to be about advice and helping others….not dragging people down.

I see that this can now happen to anyone, and anyone could be next. You work hard making a name for yourself, getting a good reputation and what for?

I spend a lot of time on this forum, and the more I have read recently the more I want to keep my hobby to myself. Sod sharing my knowledge, or any expertise I may have. Because why should I put myself on the line for people that will just as easily stab me in the back (from behind there computer screens of course). You post a picture of your animal in a highly thought out vivarium that you have researched and you can guarantee that at least one person will pick faults with it. You have a different opinion to some people and you’re made out to be the worst keeper in the hobby. You ask for advice on improving a naturalist viv set up and someone turns round and says ‘just tub em up and give em kitchen roll and a water bowl…your doing it all wrong and you’ll kill your snake’ Sorry but if I wanted to keep my snakes in unnatural conditions then I wouldn’t be asking for advice on natural set ups!

Everyone does things differently, that’s why the hobby is so diverse. Why can’t people just tolerate over peoples views and opinions? Why can’t people just THINK before making a post?

But surely if someone picks faults in your set up, you can argue your corner and explain why you do things a certain way? By reasoned debate people can see several sides to an argument as to what is the best method and decide which is best for them while learning about alternatives? Just because someone disagrees, it doesn't mean they are being disagreeable.
If someone posts about a natural viv and someone else responds and mentions just to put kitchen rool etc, you can explain why you prefer not to this. If someone else points out that something you are doing, could be dangerous, then take it on board, weigh up the supposed risks and just do what you feel right. No need to get upset if someone disagrees.

feorag · #52 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 05:46 PM

I don't think it has anything to do with people disagreeing - we are all different after all, but it's the way that people disagree that is unnecessary!

Young_Gun · #53 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by feorag

I don't think it has anything to do with people disagreeing - we are all different after all, but it's the way that people disagree that is unnecessary!

I talk/type on here and act on here exactly as I do in real life, if everyone did, things would run a lot smoother.

HABU · #54 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 06:09 PM

sharing ideas and disagreeing is what is good in any forum. you have to read between the lines at times... this is why i post pics many times, they convey things that can't be put into words very easily... i've shown my *ss many times here and more than a few posts have "hit" me the wrong way... like if your snake has just regurged and someone posts something that pushes your buttons.....i for one never i don't think, hold anything against anyone... we can fight and disagree but at other times we are singing from the same hymn-book... that's all i'm saying...

Andy · #55 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by feorag

Can I just ask though, when something like this happens and someone makes a complaint about an aggressive post, why are they not contacted to be told whether the mods agree or disagree that the post they are complaining about is aggressive or inflammatory?

How are we supposed to know that anything has been done about it at all if we aren't told?

To be fair if we PMd everyone who reported a post we wouldnt have time to do anything else we would be PMing all night! What I can say though is rest assured all reported posts are seen and, if deemed neccessary, dealt with by way of warnings/infractions/bans. We dont usually make a point of telling the person who reported the post what we have done.

hermanlover · #56 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy

To be fair if we PMd everyone who reported a post we wouldnt have time to do anything else we would be PMing all night! What I can say though is rest assured all reported posts are seen and, if deemed neccessary, dealt with by way of warnings/infractions/bans. We dont usually make a point of telling the person who reported the post what we have done.

could there not just be an automatic pm sent once it is read? like when you get an infraction you get an automatic message, jsut so people know it has been seen, coz some times you dont even know whenther it has been read, let alone dealt with

Athravan · #57 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by californiankinglover

could there not just be an automatic pm sent once it is read? like when you get an infraction you get an automatic message, jsut so people know it has been seen, coz some times you dont even know whenther it has been read, let alone dealt with

They are all 100% read by someone, most by 2-3 if not more mods in a fairly short space of time, and all are dealt with... it's pretty impossible for everyone on the team to miss a report. I know if I'm online (which is a lot!) I check that section at least every 30 minutes and another mod has usually still beaten me to any action that needs taking

essexchondro · #58 (**permalink**) 16-05-2008, 08:47 PM

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But surely if someone picks faults in your set up, you can argue your corner and explain why you do things a certain way? By reasoned debate people can see several sides to an argument as to what is the best method and decide which is best for them while learning about alternatives? Just because someone disagrees, it doesn't mean they are being disagreeable.
If someone posts about a natural viv and someone else responds and mentions just to put kitchen rool etc, you can explain why you prefer not to this. If someone else points out that something you are doing, could be dangerous, then take it on board, weigh up the supposed risks and just do what you feel right. No need to get upset if someone disagrees.

Well said! If these forums we all about kissing each others backsides then what would be the point? As far as I'm concerned, as long as people express their point of view in a logical fashion with a reasoned and clear argument (preferably in well written english!) then they can say what they want. The only people that get abusive and resort to personal insults tend to be the people that have weak arguments with nothing better to say anyway.

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