The proposition that just because someone is a qualified vet they automatically know best is just wrong. There are crap doctors, dentists, solicitors, barristers, accountants out there. Just look on the professional body websites - there are literally 100's of striking offs, disbarrings and other lesser disciplinary sanctions imposed for gross incompetence & dishonesty on these so called professionals annually. I don't see why the same does'nt apply to vets.

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I would hold my tongue! But my curiousity is getting the most of me! Again i'm not trying to further load the pain of the loss onto you.. but how old was the lizard? did it break its legs, jaw and back in the vivarium? if so? how tall is this viv? Im confused.

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something that small is close to weightless. it must have hit terminal velocity....

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Hi all,

What did it do too sustain all those injuries?????.

I have to agree with what most are saying this vet did not know you, she has to check it over,they don't do seven years training for nothing it's a vocation not a job.

I think at the moment your imotions, are taking over your judgements.

I know what its like we had to have two rats put to sleep with pneumonia, but he still did not take our word for it.he gave them a good looking over and came to same conclusion, said that was the best action to do put them to sleep.

Sorry for your loss, give it a week or so and if you still feel the same make an appointment to see her and have a talk with her, if your still not happy then you will have to take matters further.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, you must be totally devastated.

Have you checked the viv to see if anything could have fallen on it? That's the only way I could possibly think that it would have sustained those kind of injuries - as has been said, they are practically weightless, so I cannot imagine it being able to do that itself. Is there anyone else who has access to the vivs?

I know cause of death is probably the last thing you're thinking about at the moment, but it might help to ensure the same doesn't happen with any of the others, especially if their setups are similar.

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sorry for your loss
i took a feral kitten to the vets as it was bleeding from its bottom had ticks and fleas etc the rspca said they would pay £40 towards treatment then we found it had a bottom prolapse so rspca said would not pay unless i had it put down so vets put it down it could of been sown and it was only about 4 months old
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Thanks to those who have helped.
In response to the people asking how it happened:

It was clear to both us and the vet that she had some sort of MBD or brittle bone disorder. We were thoroughly confused as to why thiswould happen because they came to us healthy, and hadn't shown any signs of bad health. The 0.1 of the pair is very healthy and has very strong bones (we double checked this after what happened).
I have been talking with a few expert breeders and something that we talked about sounded like it could be the problem. There have been cases that higher incubation temperatures can lead to brittle bones, as if it were MBD, but entrely unrealted to diet, just something they're born with. Another reason as to why I think that higher incubation temperatures or greater flux in temperature could be the problem is because the breeder said to me a couple of times that he has had to give up with a different species (same genus) because his house has started to get far too hot and eggs keep failing.
She was fine the day before, so I think she must have just fallen awkwardly.

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If the vet did diagnose that the animal needed to be put down, and the continued to examine it against your wishes I would write a very strongly worded letter. It's okay to do that for an examination, but the vet cannot do anything without your permission, if you say stop, they have to stop, and if I was told that my animal had to be PTS, and then it was put in increased pain in front of me by the vet I would be very angry.

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