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Old 16-06-2008, 11:18 AM
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You risk being hammered for libel and / or malicious falsehood.
not strictly true. If any comments made are entirely factual and not exagerrated or made up then there is no case to answer.
Even if there was, to be honest, a court case against the person who made the untrue comments, is so expensive that most people cannot afford to bring action against the person who said or wrote the things. I know because someone libelled me a few months ago and to start litigation against the person who did so, was going to cost me in the region of £4000 minimum according to my solicitor.
Nobody can sue anyone for telling the truth.
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:18 AM
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I'm neither being jumped up or cocky about it. Just saying it like it is so please no personal slurs against me.

If I get someone trying to sue me then so be it let them try. I've been careful to only say what I see. It's not a case of instantly going to court. Luckily I have a good contact who is a solicitor so I consult there first

you're missing the point.

If you say something bad about them and cannot PROOVE it you're guilty. End of court case no matter how many friendly solicitors you know.
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:22 AM
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you're missing the point.

If you say something bad about them and cannot PROOVE it you're guilty. End of court case no matter how many friendly solicitors you know.
Point not missed. I said I would be careful to ask my solicitor friend (not plural) first then say wheat it is I had to say. And there is nothing wrong with giving a view to avoid somewhere to go as originally asked. For doing this there can be no case brought forward.

besides all of the other points no one knows where I live lol!
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:28 AM
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you're missing the point.

If you say something bad about them and cannot PROOVE it you're guilty. End of court case no matter how many friendly solicitors you know.
Please, this just isn't true. The onus is on the litigator to prove that you told lies.
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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Please, this just isn't true. The onus is on the litigator to prove that you told lies.
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:31 AM
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all this is fairer enough as long as the facts are right we had someone saying stuff about one of our lizards with no toes so i photographed the animal in question and put the pics on here to show the facts were wong and he did have all his didgits
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Old 16-06-2008, 11:41 AM
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all this is fairer enough as long as the facts are right we had someone saying stuff about one of our lizards with no toes so i photographed the animal in question and put the pics on here to show the facts were wong and he did have all his didgits
That's a good point and raises another point. Are reptiles in stores with missing digits poorly looked after? Not so without proof. There's a store not far from Canterbury that had an Ackie with loads of missing toes but I couldn't say for sure why that was.
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wow.. a few replys since i was last on..

i am writing up a disclaimer basicly for the "reviewer" to accept all responsability for the comments written, and its not a direct reflection of myself, but purly of the person and customer in question..

i hate that i view a good few shops, and some are below standard.. i also know as a community we are pretty powerless towards it, but..

i do belive in reptiles/ breeders and collectors to be treated with respect, and given the quality that reptiles and such things should be sold at, i have bought reptiles with awefull injuries, and conditions.. purly due to the fact they wound not last to long in the shop.
my site is basicly for good breeders and shops to be losted, it could be said if there not on there avoid them, but also are shops without web sites, and thats what i want to avoide, hundreads of good, excellent breeders/ shops SHOULD be named, and helped, why should a poor shop, with awefull condition sell an albino python, when another exsperienced good shop has the same stock, but of a better condition, health, and can offer a better infomation and care for the reptile..
to many small shops now think of it as a "quick" bit of cash, half there stock are bought from "friends" who have not a clue, and thats what i plan to do, stop the cheap, in for a pound shops ruining the reptile trade..
noway will i make an impact i know, but id feel better myself, and if i know people who spend there days/ weeks/ months/ years caring/ breeding and know about reptiles i will rather help them trade then these poor places that i belive should be named and shamed..
i had last week 4 days out of the 7 with over 2400 hits.. i word of mouth is the way forward, and if all the viewers were looking at getting a reptile, they would know where to avoid, and therefore help the "proffesional" breeders get paid for what they do best.. reptile keeping!
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Old 16-06-2008, 02:56 PM
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wow.. a few replys since i was last on..

i am writing up a disclaimer basicly for the "reviewer" to accept all responsability for the comments written, and its not a direct reflection of myself, but purly of the person and customer in question..

i hate that i view a good few shops, and some are below standard.. i also know as a community we are pretty powerless towards it, but..

i do belive in reptiles/ breeders and collectors to be treated with respect, and given the quality that reptiles and such things should be sold at, i have bought reptiles with awefull injuries, and conditions.. purly due to the fact they wound not last to long in the shop.
my site is basicly for good breeders and shops to be losted, it could be said if there not on there avoid them, but also are shops without web sites, and thats what i want to avoide, hundreads of good, excellent breeders/ shops SHOULD be named, and helped, why should a poor shop, with awefull condition sell an albino python, when another exsperienced good shop has the same stock, but of a better condition, health, and can offer a better infomation and care for the reptile..
to many small shops now think of it as a "quick" bit of cash, half there stock are bought from "friends" who have not a clue, and thats what i plan to do, stop the cheap, in for a pound shops ruining the reptile trade..
noway will i make an impact i know, but id feel better myself, and if i know people who spend there days/ weeks/ months/ years caring/ breeding and know about reptiles i will rather help them trade then these poor places that i belive should be named and shamed..
i had last week 4 days out of the 7 with over 2400 hits.. i word of mouth is the way forward, and if all the viewers were looking at getting a reptile, they would know where to avoid, and therefore help the "proffesional" breeders get paid for what they do best.. reptile keeping!
My understanding is that that would make no difference from a legal point of view. By giving people a public platform through which they can express their views you could also be held liable should those views be proved to be factually incorrect. Basically, I don't think that that disclaimer would be worth the (virtual) paper its written on, but I could be wrong.

Good luck with the project!

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Old 16-06-2008, 03:02 PM
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As there is legal presidence for Americans to allow websites to do this i THINK that if you were to host the site on an American server you would be safe.

I put up some links a fair few months back to show the presidence.
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