We have to stop comparing the wild to our door step,
They are not in the wild they never will be the whole time we bring them in to our homes.
What gets me is people that want a "natural" substrate like sand for lizards that in the wild live on CLAY!


Guilty never,
Do i feel guilty about giving our pets food every day knowing a cricket has to die for it to eat no, do i feel guilty for feeding my snakes mice that have been killed no.
Do i feel guilty that they dont express natural behaviour NO because they do, all of our leos hunt all of our snakes strike they all express naturall behaviour.
You go ahead an stick a royal in a 12ft viv we shall see how long the poor thing lasts when you pop in a live mouse see how happy it is when it never comes out of its hide.
Incase you didnt know its against the law to cause un due harm to any living animal.
So you can bang on about natural as much as you like and guilt to go with it but is wont wash on here.

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Well said animalsbeebee , I would also like to say not once did i say there is anything wrong in keeping animals for your enjoyment , I look after my animals as best as can be expected and get loads of enjoyment out of them .but look at them sometimes and think to myself wouldn't they be better off in there natural habitat . YES THEY WOULD !!!

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So your answer to any anti is i keep this BECAUSE I WANT TO,no wonder you get ripped to pieces over it ,years ago most of the shows were stopped because you can not fight you corner with a sensible reason as to why you keep things,not one of you has suggested being part of a rare breeding project,or scientific research,you keep them for your own selfish reasons.

have you even read the thread or are you stuck in your own bubble?

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Why do you keep meerkats?
Why did you keep primmates?
Why do you keep pigs?
Oh and you want a dog too well i hope you have more at home for keeping that one company and that you also have a good enough reason for keeping a dog ?
Oh and a kitten to boot.

How on earth can you come on here and start shouting your mouth off telling us we dont have good enough reasons for us to keep pets when you want things like that?

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What planet are you on?

There must be over 20 reasons why we keep these animals on this thread and not one of them is "because I want to"

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that is your most hypocritical comment yet

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See the first quote are you actually looking at the same thread?

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Sorry i am bored in my little bubble now ,I will inform you all of the next wind up topic next week at the same time , please tune in to GOT YOUR HEART PUMPING on channel RFUK at 8pm on friday and its good night from me

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sorry, but i dont keep mine for scientific research, i find most of the reserch done thats not done in its natural habitat is cruel, now im not saying all the research is but alot of it can be.
i dont keep mine as a rare breeding project - i cant afford a rare breeding project! and if i could afford a rare breeding project sometime in the future i would damn sure hope i got some experience and knowledge from the ones i have now!