I just wondered if any of you enthusiasts feel guilty about having animals banged up in cages their whole lives,years ago we use to use the excuse it was to captive breed instead of wild caught,whats the excuse now.

We provide a safe, secure, stress free environment, without fear of being eaten, attacked, starving to death, without fear of our habitat being destroyed... with the possibility of getting laid and fulfilling breeding urges...

Many CB snakes exhibit very little fear at all, compared to the instant flight of most snakes in the wild. Is a life without fear, full of food and good lovin' really that bad just because our house is a bit smaller?

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Also available right now for rehoming: 1 x Juvenile Male Bearded Dragon, 1 x Adult Female Curlytail Lizard

Erm....no.

Totally agree!
When people tell me off about stuff like that at school, i just think 'what do you know about snakes, to tell me im killng mine"

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Captive bred animals depending on the gen really would know no difference its the only lifestyle they know, they are guaranteed food and water and a clean pleasent place to live might seem a bit stupid looking at it that way but thats how i see it.

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I wonder if you asked prisoners the same question,your warm,you have a roof over your head,no worries,whether they would agree,

No worries?
I hardly tihnk being in prison is no worries.

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Nope,

Tarantulas are ambush predators and in the wild only live within a square metre of there burrow (approx obviously!). Its only the males who wander in the last moult of their lives seeking out a female to have his wicked way with!

In captivity they are not intelligent to know any different and most (I hope) keepers provide the same enviroment to that of there natural habitat, allowing them to live out there lives naturally using the instincts that are built in genetically.

Also....what Athravan said!

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Tarantulas0.1.5. Chromatapelma cyaneopubescens1.0.0. Lasiodora klugi0.0.1. Grammostola rosea0.0.2. Chilobrachy sp. aladdin0.0.1. Brachypelma smithi0.0.0. Monoceptropus balfouri0.0.0. Poecilotheria mettalica0.0.0. Poecilotheria subfusca[option]

Prisoners on the other hand have been brought up in society so they can compare.

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Snakes1.0.0 Royal Python – Ben

Tarantula's0.1.0 Avicularia Minatrix0.0.1 Avicularia Sp. Amazonica0.0.2 Avicularia Sp. Peru Purple 0.1.0 Avicularia sp. unknown 0.0.1 Avicularia Versicolor 0.0.1 Brachypelma Smithi0.0.1 Cyclosternum fasciatum 0.0.5 Grammostola Pulchripes0.0.1 Haplopelma Lividum0.0.1 Holothele incei0.0.1 Lasiodora parahybana0.0.1 Poeciltheria Ornata0.0.1 Poecilotheria Regalis 0.1.5 Pterinochilus Murinus

Cats 1.0.0 Bengal – Maximus 1.0.0 Moggie – Sweep 1.0.0 Moggie - Marcelle R.I.P 11/02/09

You cannot compare sentient beings with animals. Perhaps if you offered someone in a third world country who has lived in fear of civil war, rape, beatings, abuse, starvation, disease... whether they would like to live in a compound where they had everything they needed, perhaps they would take it for that safety and security... and that is humans we are talking about!

You cannot compare animals to humans. CB animals do not know any different. They act on instinct. If the instincts are fulfilled they are content. If the environment is correct, if there is food, if their urges are fulfilled, what difference does it make?

What are you arguments then that snakes are not happy in captivity and would be happier being dumped into a world they know nothing of, where they have no fight or survival instincts because they've been brought up in captivity?

How would you feel if someone picked you up, dumped you into the rainforest and said - hunt for your own food, find your own water, find your own safe place to sleep, there will be things trying to kill you, chase you, you will never be safe again.. good luck surviving. Would you say, yes please.. release me?

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Also available right now for rehoming: 1 x Juvenile Male Bearded Dragon, 1 x Adult Female Curlytail Lizard