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Old 01-09-2008, 07:26 AM
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Pythons & Boas kept together = A short or long death by IBD in a huge amount of cases.
I only question a "huge amount of cases". People seem to think boas all carry IBD or that a large percentage do which is wrong. IBD is still relatively uncommon. The only danger is that boas can carry it, and not show symptoms, or can be affected by it and take longer to show symptoms, whereas a python will be affected/die quicker.

2 unknown pythons thrown together, or 2 boas etc. pose the same IBD risk to each other as boa + python.

Quarantine is essential, moreso when cohabiting boids of any type IMO.

For Denise I wouldn't personally put any of those together/agree with anyone else doing so, but the one which shocks me most is the Nile Monitor in with torts. Nile claws are perfectly designed for tearing things apart and they'd happily have a go at making that tort a meal one day! Maybe you should consider writing to the zoo and airing your feelings about their setups/choice of living arangements.
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Fangio I am going to write to the zoo and it will be interesting if I get a reply back.

The Leopard Torts with the Iggies enclosure had crickets, locusts, cockroaches and a bowl of mixed veg mainly cabbage to eat. The floor had various substrates from sand to bark and was a fair size.

The Nile was in his raised pool, and the Hinged Torts was roaming about the rocks and cave at floor level. Didn't see any food items there. Maybe the torts are the food items. LOL Substrates were sand and bark

As for the boa and the retic they're enclosure was set like a large cave and both snakes where asleep on top at either side. They have climbing branches and a small water pool. Substrates were sand and bark also.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:35 PM
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To be honest that is absolutely shocking. From the tortoise side the leopards should not be fed veg, and most certainly not cabbage as it is so high in oxhalic acid. For a leopard they want a diet of grasses and hays, and weeds/wildflowers. Whether the enclosure was a fair size or not to me is neither here nor there, hearing their many downfalls in your original post. It really irritates me that zoo's are allowed to keep animals incorrectly, yet it's us, the private keepers who take blooming good care of our animals that the anti's & RSPCA try to fight against. It's a sorry state of affairs
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Was this Blackpool Zoo by any chance?
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To be honest that is absolutely shocking. From the tortoise side the leopards should not be fed veg, and most certainly not cabbage as it is so high in oxhalic acid. For a leopard they want a diet of grasses and hays, and weeds/wildflowers. Whether the enclosure was a fair size or not to me is neither here nor there, hearing their many downfalls in your original post. It really irritates me that zoo's are allowed to keep animals incorrectly, yet it's us, the private keepers who take blooming good care of our animals that the anti's & RSPCA try to fight against. It's a sorry state of affairs
I know i keep leopard torts myself. The size of the enclosure was mentioned to only give you an idea of the set up along with the other details i provided.
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