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Old 27-09-2008, 08:49 AM
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Is it just me or is there an alarming rate of newbies buying reps then asking for info ArGGGGGghhhhhhhh WTF
Ive been a rep owner for a good 15 yr & just joined this forum as i pinch my friends computer when i visit as im always looking for new ideas etc
But nearly everyday its people saying i have bought these so excited then asking oh yeah so what do i do now
I know people do impulse buys but if they have no rep experience surely it can only be harmful & half of them end up being put to a rescue home or end up poorly
Everytime i decide i want to try a new lizard etc i always read up for ages & ask for advice from other owners even if i saw the animal & hadn't the eqipment ready i would get it kept for me until i was ready
Read 1 yesterday & the person seemed to think it was soo cool to have reps then proceeded to ask what to do next How are they caring for them at the minute if they don't know how too?

Right rant over Would be interested to see what others think
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Old 27-09-2008, 05:31 PM
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got to agree with you there. i always try to do as much research as possible before buying a new rep. i usually miss out on good deals because i would rather get the info 1st.
sadly it also means that too many shops are selling to people without checking their knowledge first.
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Old 27-09-2008, 06:06 PM
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sadly it also means that too many shops are selling to people without checking their knowledge first.
thats the problem, greedy shops!
To many young wanna be steve irwins, and to many people breeding to make some pointless quick money to buy a new computer game, its wrong, and silly.
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Old 27-09-2008, 06:33 PM
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Yip i agree its terrible how much reps end up unwanted!
I would love a few more lizards but at the minute i'm just reading up on a few things before i decide what to get.
When i was in for my crickets the other day to a shop i don't like but it has the best live food Well actually its the prat behind the counter i dislike lol
He would sell anythng to any1 without a care in the world & gets away with it all the time I saw him almost convince a woman & young kid about 7 to get a bosc & i had to say something so i said to the woman wow you must have a big viv for that once its fully grown & she looked horrified not knowing how large it actually got So i proceeded to tell her with the man looking non too happy she decided not to bother & said she would have a little read up online as she did want to get her son something I told her to start with a gecko or similar
Needless to say i'm not sure how much i cost the guy that day but i was proud at least he has a reason to glower at me now & not just cause he wants too
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Old 27-09-2008, 06:41 PM
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yep i agree, but its no point bitching on here as it'll only scare these people off. At least theyre coming on and asking for help now,even if it is late, instead of carrying on not knowing how to look after them. People make mistakes, and impulse buy etc, and hopefully they wont do it again. If you make threads like this(ive seen quite a few in the past) then its not helping, as the owners wont bother coming on, and its the animals that will end up suffering
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Old 27-09-2008, 09:42 PM
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is it that time of the year for another one of these threads...

at least people come here to ask questions and hopefully get good answers and not the usual flaming for not doing research
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Old 27-09-2008, 11:54 PM
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I agree ..
I would tend to find out about animals before getting them. I have quite a bit of snake knowledge these days which means as I have spare stats and tubs and stuff its generally not a difficult process.

No newb should really just go out and buy a snake without knowing what they are getting themselves into.

However, the point of this forum is to help and advise people like that, and be of benifit to their animals whether people agree with them or not.

Giving them a dressing down will not help the animal and I believe friendly and informative is much more helpful and better in the long run.
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Old 28-09-2008, 12:53 AM
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all good retailers and quality breeders will ask a customer before selling if they know about the specie, or will say the basic husbandry during purchase, some shops even give out care sheets with every purchase.

no one should come from a pet store or descent breeder with no basic idea on how to keep the animal/s alive and healthy.

you do not have to research before you buy, staff are supposed to be trained to guide you and answer any questions needed. unknowledgable people enable add on sales!

just ask the questions on purchase.

although it benifits both the animal and new owner to research before hand.

if advice isnt given during purchase, then that's obviously why they need answers from the forum/internet.


better they asked than not asked.



when i go into reptile shops, i go for maybe just food, but sometimes come out with something ive not owned or not known anything about previously. sometimes i buy things i didnt even know existed.

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i agree too some should research before getting anything
but on other hand i bet it scares new people asking anything on most sites without stupid remarks or just to make them look stupid as it seems easy to them(beggars belief that all started where they are) but tbh if mistakes were never made theyd be none of the progression there is now..how many animals died before people started formulating diets,powders etc and the silly remarks don't help them just makes them less willing to ask and thats only way you learn asking questions and doing it. common sense is only common after the incident has happened (the new people haven't probably seen the hazards like the most experienced have as you only learn not to do it from own mistakes and others unfortunately) only thing that annoys me is importance of thermostats ALL basic starter kits should have one imo no excuse really as not really expensive in comparison to purchasing animals
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Old 28-09-2008, 12:02 PM
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is it that time of the year for another one of these threads...

at least people come here to ask questions and hopefully get good answers and not the usual flaming for not doing research

Okay okay chill i was left a message about 2 iggs being sent to my friends house in scotland from an owner who didn't Know how big they got
So i was angry & fed up with it I know its best to ask questions & i don't want to scare anybody god forbid if it stopped someone finding out care info
But for example there is someone asking what to do with 50 odd chams Now thats scary when they are not sure what to do & are going to be bringing up that amount of babies
I will end this now as i don't want to offend any1 i guess i will just have to keep it to myself
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