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Old 27-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default The effects of permitherin

Last week, i bought a nice bit of cork from a "less than reputable" reptile center in my area (yes it was W)...I know i shouldnt have, but it was nice!

I found some mites yesterday, in one of my vivs, and decided to blitz them all. So i put all into tubs, coaten in oil and let loose with a can of "bob martin house flea spray"

Thought it would be a good choice sine it claims to go on killing for up to 3 months!

So i empted the can in all vivs, leaving them cloudy. It started to sting my eyes, so all windows are now open lol.

To check the effects, i put some crix in one of the vivs, and they died nearly instantly!

And people reccomend this for use on the reptile...NOT ON YOUR NELLY!

It is 0.47%, and POTANT...

So anyone thinking of using Johnsons, Mite off or any other permitherin based insectaside on an animal please think carefully, and decide against it.

All vivs will be bleached, rinced and aired before re-inhabitation. They will be back within a week, i think.
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Old 27-06-2007, 10:18 PM
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It is nasty stuff, its in Provent a mite and can be nasty if not used correctly.

Cant say ive ever heard of Bob Martin house flea spray being used on reptiles tho, thats a crazy idea that would probably kill.
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Its the same stuff, and a simlar concentration. I needed to kill them before they took ahold, and it was the only one on the shelf.

So i bought it for enclosures only, and as said they will be cleaned and rinced before use.
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Old 27-06-2007, 10:22 PM
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It's an insecticide, of course it's gonna kill the crix!

LOL It's a chemical I use often as I'm a pest controller! Comes in many different forms:

Permethrin, tetramethrin, alphacypermethrin etc.etc.

It's actually one of the "safest" chemicals I use! Not that any chemical is safe!
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LOL but people say it is safe for reps etc.

I know it will kill them, but i thought it may take longer than 10sec in some cases and 30 in others!

And i didnt know u were pest control, killing all them poor ratties Meanie
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Old 27-06-2007, 10:32 PM
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IF YOU USE PROVENT A MITE LET IT DRY OUT FOR A FEW HOURS BEFORE RETURNING YOUR REP TO ITS VIV

its nasty shit sorry about caps ..it will cause brain damage etc etc so make sure you heed my warning
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LOL i will wash it off, with bleach, and hydrogen peroxide (my usualy cleaning stuff) and then rince a few times...and air for 24 hours after!
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Old 27-06-2007, 10:36 PM
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thank god someone else at last agrees with me on this!!!

how many times have i been slammed for saying about that on here!

bloody cheapskates who use bloody cat flea spray for reptiles are idiots!

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It's safe for most animals to go near when it's dry. I'd NEVER recommend applying chemicals to a live animal no matter what the pot says but that's up to the owner.

Yeah I do pest control in London! Great fun!
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OI lol

I aint a cheap skate lol

Using it to kill all in viv, with olive oil on snakes.

Then i will rinse and bleach out viv, and air before use.


Just making a point as to how bad the stuff is. Made me eyes water, and kills insects in seconds.

IMHO Would kill a reptile (if inhaled) in less than an hour. It is great in whatever form for vivariums, but NEVER on the reptile.
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