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Old 12-08-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Do you know any bad herp keepers?

Just wondering how many of you have seen privatly keps herps that are either in bad conditions or not looked after propperly?

There is a guy on here who asked me to go round and ID a scorp for him. I went round, he said it was sold to him as a P. imperator (emporer), but I ID'd it as a H. spinifer (giant Asian forrest), he no longer wanted it so he gave it me. The scorp was covered in some unknown white dust and the temps where around 55f. He also had 2 leopard gecho's which were kept at 65f, on the wrong substrait, and had no most hide. He also had 2 garter snakes that were fed on live fish out of a mini pool insider the viv; which was also WAY too low in the temperature department.

Then there was the fan footed gecko I took off him, it was kept in a terestrial tank, had potting soil as a substrait, had nowhere to climb, was fed on chicked heads and the temps where lower than 70f. I tried my best to save him but I couldn't; he died a few days after I took him home

This sort of keeper should be outed, but I'm not sure on how to do it without getting banned myself.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:21 PM
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damn...the poor little people...that sort of person should be banned from keeping herps for definite.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:23 PM
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Yer, they should. I wish I could out him too, but naming another member may get me banned.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:25 PM
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hmm have a word with t-bo or one of the other mods...did you raise your concerns with this guy?
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:29 PM
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Unfortunately I see many cases like this every year,I currently have a Boa here for example that,after being burnt on a naked bulb,the keeper thought best to just turn the bulb off from then on.The burns were untreated,the snake obviously in pain,bit the owner.From that point on the viv was unopened.By the time we got him he had been at room temps and not fed in at least 6 months.
It is hard to know what to do for the best,naming & shaming is always the 1st thing that comes to mind,but be aware it can cause trouble.I myself have recently been banned from another forum for doing exactly that.The RSPCA are a complete waste of time & space,and if you pay to rescue every bad case you see you'll be poor for life and have 100's of herps.Well done at least for being aware and helping in the way you have.All I can suggest is talk to a moderator first before making your next move on the forum.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:33 PM
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how could he not even manage 75-80 degrees? did he use no heating atall incubass?

I think concerns should first be voiced to the kepper in question, and then if that person knows they are doing wrong and dont care then publicly naming them is ok and shouldnt cause anyone else to be upset.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:39 PM
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I know too many

One of them is a member on here too, not willing to name him though.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:39 PM
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did you raise your concerns with this guy?
That's what I was wondering?
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:43 PM
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Yes, I did raise my concerns and gave lots of advice, but I really boubt it will be taken as 'he was told it was ok'! The reason the temps were so low is that the heat lamp was one of those that go high above the tank (no inside it), looks kinda like a reading lamp. It was way too high for it to even gemerate a little heat.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:46 PM
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I cant see the point in contacting T-Bo as at the end of the day what can he do if someone is a bad herp keeper in your opinon? (im not saying yiour not being truthfull )

I dont really see anything else you can do other than to try and educate this person... Naming and shaming will just mean the person will prob leave the forum and then get even less help in trying to understand the care his reps need.
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