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i find it ironic that koi carp and racing pigeons are exempt from all these rulings, i guess lots of mps' own them
 I cant answer your question Emz, the AWB seems so loosly worded that who knows? ok so the pet animals act says no but the Defra site says if not in the course of a buisness its ok. its all a bit confusing.
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16-08-2007, 11:14 PM
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The hobby, as has been said on countless occasions, needs to pull together, needs to lobby mps for straight answers, and needs to stand up and be counted.
its a slippery slope.
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16-08-2007, 11:15 PM
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yeh future doesnt look to promising
sympathy to all the organisers, i wasnt before having a moan at jason was annoyed at the people who cancelled it, good luck for the future shows guys!!
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16-08-2007, 11:31 PM
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Thats really bad news, its just another nail in the UK show coffin really, Manchester, Blackpool and now this. Really bad news
 Hopefully something big will happen next year  
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16-08-2007, 11:34 PM
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They are already on about stopping internet sales too![/quote]
Yeah right!! all they will end up doing is create a black market, buy a pay as you go internet phone and run it on there
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16-08-2007, 11:39 PM
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This is the email I got from them today that started it all off
Exeter Reptile Expo - 18th August 2007 - Plymouth University - Rolle College Dear Mr Edworthy I understand that you are intending to hold an event called "The Exeter Reptile Expo" on the 18th August 2007 at Rolle College, Exmouth. It is evident from advertising material on the organisers web site www.exreptile.com and the connected South West Reptilian Society http://www.exreptile.com/swrspage.html , that exhibitors from both UK and abroad are coming to this show with the intention of making sales. It is this councils view that the event proposed would expose any vendor or exhibitor to prosecution under Section 2 of the Pet Animals Act 1951 Act (as amended) if any live vertebrate or other animals are sold. We will also be looking closely to see if you, as the organiser, fail to comply with the law. In addition the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976 provides that alligators, caymans and certain lizards and snakes may not be kept in East Devon without a licence issued by this authority. No such application has been received by us in connection with this event. Officers from this council are authorised under the Pet Animals Act to take evidence and instigate legal proceedings against offenders and it is likely that we will seek to attend the event in order to enforce the law. If this event is to be staged, you must ensure that live animals are only exhibited and that no sales of vertebrates or other animals are made by anyone. I hope this helps to clarify the situation, but obviously if you need more information, please contact me. yours faithfully Paul Martin Paul Martin Environmental Health Manager (Commercial & Administration) Directorate of Communities East Devon District Council Knowle, Station Road Sidmouth, Devon - EX10 8HL Tel: 01395 517455 Fax: 01395517407 e-mail : pmartin@eastdevon.gov.uk (Internal ext. 2655)
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16-08-2007, 11:40 PM
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the problem is, too many people are buying and selling, so they need to crack down on it.
There are also too many people making obsene amounts of money from breeding, and the govenment want tax. because of these people shows are seen as business' etc. I had one member telling me of their plans to report another member because she was selling home bred stuff and owns a shop...
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Unfortunately however : 130 tables being booked (£1560) Animals being bought for the show (upwards of £5000) Animal transport costs (upwards of £2000) Loss of animal sales at the show (upwards of £5000) Loss of food sales in the area (upwards of £2000) Loss of petrol sales in the area (upwards of £5000) These are just figures off the top of my head but there WILL be more and are only based on 1-200 people turning up. Still these figures add up to over £20,000 of money now not changing hands. SO personally while i understand the sentiment, some how i think "bad news" doesn't even come close to describing it.
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