Ever been too crufts? Its like a canine whore house when it comes to the doggy black market, they all show the parents and hand out business cards for offspring.

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But the sales are still done in the private properties of the people selling the animals..

I'm sure the council would have no problem with us all bringing our snakes to a location, saying "no sales here" and letting people look, choose.. then driving all the way back to the property of the people who own the snake and handing the money over there

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I have, yes, I go annually. Business cards, so not handing over cash then? It's not a trade show for buying and selling animals, its a fundamentally different type of event.

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whatever the thread isn't about crufts or dogs for that matter.

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That this type of legislation has been on the books for a very long time.

Reptile shows, will there be a future - who knows?

Crufts - will there be a future ? - Who knows

If things go the way those that oppose wish them to do, there is very little future anyway, hence why the long running adage of 'stand up and be counted' has tried to rather unsuccessfully pull together the different fraternities.

Sad facts are that this has 'beena comin' guys.

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The thing is, most small animal shows do allow sales with no issues. The difference is that shows in most fancies are where animals that have been bred to a particular standard are judged as to their quality by your peers. The sales are a small section, with the animals sold being surplus stock from the main event ... shows aren't normally based around simply sales.

To the outsider (for example, a council employee), a show where animals are being judged against a standard with a few excess being sold among fanciers is quite obviously a "hobby" event. A show with no show element, simply buying and selling does look like a commercial venture.

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Lets face it the show's where sales happen are not a show as such they're a sale day. I've spent many a weekend/sunday afternoon at Parrot club table top 'show's which in reality had no show eliment to them just plain old selling of surplus stock, occassionally there would be the best docorated cage/table comp which had nothing to do with the serious business of selling birds.

Crufts is a show a competition where breeders and traders are allowed to pass out business cards or in the traders case sell good - breeders are not however allowed to sell puppies or dogs at ANY KC licensed event, nor are matings allowed within the grounds of any show.

I thought it was cancelled cos of foot an mouth outbreak as the matford centre it would have been in was a cattle market centre. Seems pretty silly as reps cant get foot and mouth and cant pass it on. Sucks really. Why was it cancelled? Im just guessing

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Forget about the last post id just read why it was cancelled. So close to the event.

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To be honest, the days of open 'pet' selling are numbered.

In some ways, rightly so.

However, I belive that societies and organisations will be able to continue to put on these type of events , only in a much more restricted manner.

For example, the whole aim of the laws is to protect the animals, to end the wholesale deaths that occur with many of the imports, to ensure new owners are given the help and advice they need.

We have all hear of the horror stories in the news, the 'croc in the bath' and the 'child bitten by snake' stories, but never the nice stories.

As many others have suggested, its time to stand up and be counted. If everyone wrote to mps' regarding the wording and interpritation of the 1951 act, and the more recent AWB, the impact would be large. If only having many MPs talking about how many people are asking.

I mean, theres 2500 active members on this site alone !

I urge everyone to join a club, form a society, take an active interest and lets all push in the same direction.

I dont know about any FBH or IHS involvment in the exeter show, or even if there is any, but it sure will be interesting to hear thier take on this turn of events.

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