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Old 02-01-2008, 07:45 PM
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In fact if you look at Greek Orthodox traditions, they believe that the souls of the departed either become serpents or are associated with them.

This could explain a lot if you believed that a snake was in fact your deceased mother in law.
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:54 PM
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In fact if you look at Greek Orthodox traditions, they believe that the souls of the departed either become serpents or are associated with them.

This could explain a lot if you believed that a snake was in fact your deceased mother in law.
That'd be one for the freezer!

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This is obviously a gross exaggeration as if it were the case then all the snake species in Cyprus would surely be extinct.
Not really, most of the island is pretty wild and uninhabited and is likely to remain so, luckily for the native wildlife which still flourishes in these areas.

However many Cypriots will swerve to run over a reptile on the road, you see squashed snakes and lizards all over the place, often right at the edge of the road where it's obvious they've been run over deliberately. And the huge numbers of hunters will happily shoot anything that moves just for the "fun" of it, something that affects all species not just reptiles, even migrating birds are shot even though it's totally illegal.

As I said the statement about the attitudes of the majority of Cypriots is something I even heard from Cypriots themselves, both from snake lovers at the Herpetologial Society, and snake haters themselves who seemed quite proud of the fact.

You see when I first heard of this hatred I didn't quite believe it myself, so I went looking for evidence and found plenty of it from some highly credible and respected sources.
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Old 02-01-2008, 08:12 PM
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However many Cypriots will swerve to run over a reptile on the road, you see squashed snakes and lizards all over the place, often right at the edge of the road where it's obvious they've been run over deliberately. And the huge numbers of hunters will happily shoot anything that moves just for the "fun" of it, something that affects all species not just reptiles, even migrating birds are shot even though it's totally illegal.
As will people from Britain, America, France, Germany.... this is nothing to do with a biblical hatred of snakes, it's just human nature. Put a gun in someones hands and they will want to shoot something.

People fear snakes, rats, lions, tigers, wasps, spiders, you name it... we are a pretty pathetic and weedy species... and if we have the means at our disposal we will kill them. It has nothing at all to do with religion, religion is just used as an excuse.
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religion is just used as an excuse
Now there I have to agree with you, the faithful are always using their religion as a poor excuse for their actions, whether it's the persecution of animals or people.
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I remember the story of popcorn the albino burmese, who died because of this prejudice, this kid saw the snake and judged and put action with that judgement, but if that boy had known the snake then i doubt he would have done that.
Is that the one where the kid stood on the snakes head and he barely got into trouble off his parents...I heard a story like this a couple months back on redearslider.com just thought it might be the same one.

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My mum is fascinated by ours, but did comment today that "most reptiles aren't cared for properly. Huh? Based on what? I'm a bit concerned how a seemingly intelligent woman can make such an unfounded comment. And seeing as I'm the only person she knows who keeps them!?!?!

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unfortunately this is the image that the antis (through propaganda), and general media (mostly through ignorance and old fashioned ideas) dish out to the public. Once you've had an idea shown to you enough it can easily become imprinted in your mind as fact, almost as if it's based on your own personal experiences. It becomes an opinion and it isn't easy to change a persons opinion.
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Is that the one where the kid stood on the snakes head and he barely got into trouble off his parents...I heard a story like this a couple months back on redearslider.com just thought it might be the same one.
Yeah.
I gto very angry about that story.
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