Something i have noticed..... - Page 2

gecko-kus · #11 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 12:26 PM

all our reptiles even our breeding stock is seen as our pets... but many people see them as money makers and not for the pleasure in keeping them. (but i do understand getting and swooping animals for breeding purposes).
Having worked in a reptile shop i know exactly what you mean and i think i know the guy you are talking of as we lived in kent. He has done this to many shops buying things then bringing them back a few months later, there is no point in dealing with him what so ever so good on you for not selling to him any more.
Plus alot of people in kent want reps for the wow factor with their friends.. look at me i have a big snake or i have a nasty monitor just to show off with no intension of looking after them properly!!!
I hate the fact that this wonderful hobby is subjected to people like that, who give it a bad name.

spider_mad · #12 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 06:18 PM

They are the type of people who should not be allowed to keep any animal of any kind.Thing is many people get cats and dogs and they get thrown out of a moving car or left outside for someone to find to bring into RSPCA. The reptiles get the same thing these days with people as you say getting bored and treating them like the snakes are trading cards or stamps. If you want a hobby to trade then get exactly that, cards and stamps or even coins. Animals whatever they are are and still should be seen as pets not merely items.

spider_mad · #13 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincaveman

I think its part of the hobby thats always been there, our local shop will buy back at a fraction of the price it sells at, whether you see that as a good or bad thing........

Im guilty of it myself, not through boredom, but through changes with breeding plans

Breeding plans is slightly different and more forgiving if someone breeds dozens of snakes and there is a change in breeding such as a snake that was thought to have been a given sex but turns out to be the opposite and im sure that has happened to everybody at some stage.

TSKA Rory Matier · #14 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 07:10 PM

Sadly this is the market we live in isn't it?

I can not speak of the reptile market, so will not attempt to.

But the mammal market has a percentage of keepers that never seem to be settled on what it is that they actually want from a species.

If in doubt, forget it.

There are so many exotic species out there at present.

I know many keepers that know what they want, have waited for it - sometimes years and are thrilled when eventually they get it.

I know others, who are so keyed up about this and that and then suddenly they are available again.

It sadly is the way of the market, animals to some are disposable, l don't mean to the point of 'death' but people do not seem to be emotionally attached anymore.

They forget that animals are not just a commodity to be thrown away because of boredom or the can not be arsed anymore attitude.

They are a living breathing species that require more respect and certainly responsible ownership.

My two penneth worth anyway.

R

mrfluff · #15 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 07:35 PM

I love all mine and am definately attached to them. I think of them as pets rather than a hobby. We bought a young boa off a friend when they stopped keeping. We did it to help them out and looked into selling it on. I couldn't do it though, I'd taken her on and can give her a good home. I'd only have worried about her if I'd have sold her!

Jo

the-reptile-mafia · #16 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 09:58 PM

I have bought a fire salamander and the adult male beardie from your shop and i have no intention of bringing them back

sami · #17 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 10:18 PM

there are some in our 'collection' that i couldn't sell.

like the leopard geckos.. i'm far too attached to them. since i decided i couldn't sell them, i've had a couple of offers on them, but i declined both times. they are the two i started with.. and they both have personalities that show through, and i definately see them as pets.

the same with my rainbow boa.. his bday is the same day as mine.. he has a lovely temperament, and is lovely to look at..
but because he is a cross (brb x crb) we are not going to breed him..
yet i will never sell him, as i am far too attached to him!

a lot of our reptiles are pets. the majority have names, and they all have personalities.

i do understand when people's plans change. it used to upset me when i sold things we had started out with, and grown on since they were tiny, and they were sold on again straight away. but unfortunately, i know it's all part of the hobby.

this is why i have changed my mind on a couple of things i had for sale. i've sold things we have no breeding plans for, and regretted it. so i think carefully now!

sami

Ally · #18 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 11:24 PM

One thing with reptiles though is that they live so long. You can't think "OK, I can guarantee that for the next 20 years I can house and care for this snake" because things change, they live for such a long time that you can never be sure.
We had someone come into the shop with a 14 year old Russain Ratsnake that he wanted to rehome - he was very worried that I would think he was a bad owner for giving her up, but his situation had just changed so much (kids etc) that he no longer had enough time for her. I didn't think less of him for it - probably more because he had the ability to know when enough was enough and be responsible about rehoming her and not letting her suffer less care than she was used to.

Things do arise over such a huge period of time, breeding plans change, there are plenty of legit reasons why you might give up or sell reptiles - getting bored is not a good one though!
I just hope that people who get bored of them make sure they get a home rather than neglect them and learn thier lesson and don't get another one! (ok, I know I'm living in a dream land there!)

Athravan · #19 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 11:36 PM

I know a few regular "serial" reptile keepers, the kind that buy a lot and sell a lot, back in 2 weeks trading in the latest craze and then a few weeks later that goes too... these people must lose a fortune and it just makes no sense to me. The grass is always greener, perhaps.. some people just aren't satisfied with what they've got, and will always be searching for that perfect reptile that interests them so much that they will hold onto it for it's life... and I really hope that most people find that.

Trice · #20 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 04:22 AM

To be honest, it's like anything. Sad yes, but it's like some people with cars. they get bored within a couple months, and want something new.

With any possessions. It's sad that people treat animals like that, well not really seeing reptiles as animals, like we do. But yeah. There are some members on the forum who soon get bored of the reptiles they have, sell them, then get something new not long later.

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