Something i have noticed..... - Page 3

HABU · #21 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 04:30 AM

it's this morph thing that degrades them into collectibles...........get a classic, real animal and you can have a tiny bit of that place..... study herps, not coin collecting....looking for the unusual...isn't mother nature good enough? a CORN ISN'T A CORN ONCE YOU CAN'T FIND ONE BUT FROM A BREEDER..... real animals is what i say...a suriname boa constrictor is about the best thing...i can't think that mother nature is second best to an englishman...or american...

captaincaveman · #22 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HABU

it's this morph thing that degrades them into collectibles...........get a classic, real animal and you can have a tiny bit of that place..... study herps, not coin collecting....looking for the unusual...isn't mother nature good enough? a CORN ISN'T A CORN ONCE YOU CAN'T FIND ONE BUT FROM A BREEDER..... real animals is what i say...a suriname boa constrictor is about the best thing...i can't think that mother nature is second best to an englishman...or american...

well maybe not to an american, but a brit thats a possibility

To be honest i think we all keep for different reasons, i was never a morph fan years ago, but its my main interest now, i too have certain animals that i'd never sell, even though they are for breeding

I mean look at the classifieds on every reptile forum, its one of the busy areas and not everythings hatchlings

darwengray · #23 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 09:45 AM

ITs not just shops though eh? There seems to have been quite a few cases on here recently were certain snakes seem to be on some serpent merry-go-round

darkdan99 · #24 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 09:57 AM

Darwengrey, i thought u was leaveing, well you was at 1am LMFAO.......

As for the thread, i have bought animals that genuinly were not for me, after research and time, giving them everything they need etc i just was totally dis-interested. So i found them new owners who would care for them better than i would because with me they were getting food, and water, in a decent setup etc, but they were missing out on human interaction because i genuinly was not interested in the species, AFTER i had bought them. I expected them to be somthing they were not i guess.

And there are others that i had bought and never looked back.

Now i have worked with these species, and in a shop setting, and as a trader i know what is for me and what isnt. So i wont go out and buy a australian water dragon for instance, because i wasnt that impressed by CWD's.

BUT i would however buy any Varanid for instance because i have worked with 6/7 species and all were genuinly amazing.

Just a differnt take on the situation. I'm sure we have all bought animals that were made out to be somthing they are not, etc.

Dan

sami · #25 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trice

To be honest, it's like anything. Sad yes, but it's like some people with cars. they get bored within a couple months, and want something new.

With any possessions. It's sad that people treat animals like that, well not really seeing reptiles as animals, like we do. But yeah. There are some members on the forum who soon get bored of the reptiles they have, sell them, then get something new not long later.

I remember watching a couple of groups of small lizards on the classifieds.

I'm pretty sure one group managed 3-4 new owners, all on here, in the space of about 6-8 weeks.

Mason

Trice · #26 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by quixotic_axolotl

I remember watching a couple of groups of small lizards on the classifieds.

I'm pretty sure one group managed 3-4 new owners, all on here, in the space of about 6-8 weeks.

Mason

Sad isnt it. For an animal to have to be moved one place to another, constantly new homes rather than settling into one place.

Dexter · #27 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nicoleparish

Your thoughts?

Well, it's pretty simple to realise that more and more humanity is going downhill. It's all wrong and getting worse by the year. Violence, corrupt politicians taxing us out of existence, polution, children being put in the world by irresponsible pillocks that will give them no education and in a few years they will be turning decent people's lives into hell, poverty, selfishness, wars, people being brainwashed by stupid religious leaders, etc.

What would you make you think that when it gets to the reptile industry, everyone would be nice, caring and perfect ?

Everyday a twat dies and other 5 are born, that's the reality.

Dan · #28 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 03:50 PM

I have a different view from the rest of you

Let's be honest here, what does it actually matter?

Reptiles don't know or care who it is that is feeding them etc etc. It is only us forcing these emotions on to them.

If the animals in question were aware of who was outside the viv they live in and had any kind of bond with them (that originated from the animal and not the owner) then yes i could understand. Reality is though that these animals don't have any bond with us.

So the animal isn't suffering, the keeper is learning more and not becoming bored so where is the problem?

Dexter · #29 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 05:04 PM

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. In reality I said similar things many times, so did others.

We do tend to think that the animals think like us, to the point that we think sometimes they chat with their fellow reptile friends, or they love things, etc.

We say things like: 'my snake loves his bark, or love his water bowl ...' when in fact they don't. They will hide where they find it cozy and right temperature, they will drink water no matter the colour or shape of the bowl, etc.

But I still stand by my comment about the pillocks of this world, being reptile keepers or not, there are more and more scum around

In the reptile world, most of the scum come in a form of time wasters, those who are cruel or don't provide their animals with proper care, scammers, etc.

bradhollands999 · #30 (**permalink**) 09-01-2008, 05:28 PM

I don't think its a case of the animals bonding with the owners, its more the owners bonding with the animals!!

I agree though, if you look at the classifieds it5s quite often always the same people selling for space etc. yet a week later they buy another one!!

I buy all my reps (all 2 of them) with the intention of still owning them when they pass away of old age!!

I will never sell either of the 2 i've got now!!

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