i see nothing wrong with buying, selling and trading things..... like with anything else, people can be a little overboard with things, but how else do you gain experience with very different species without being a millionaire? many people here sell at a loss just to be able to work with new species. most love their animals and don't sell or trade them because they are tired of them. they, being responsible keepers want to work with something else but realise that they can only keep a certain number properly...... just my opinion.......now with morphs...a corn is a corn is a corn..... keep a few and you have all of the experience that you need.... if a corn snake owner wants to work with a king snake then he should be able to.

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I just meant normals

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DAVE INNIT!

pointing at those who can`t own anything for five minutes without wanting to sell it or swap it .
There`s been quite a few instances on here recently.

But that, in itself, isn't necessarily a bad thing (unless you mean five minutes literally, of course!). What matters is the quality of the care that the reptile receives....and there is no automatic link between a reptile having several owners and it receiving poor care.

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I keep Green Tree Pythons, Emerald Tree Boas, Black-Head Pythons, Woma Pythons, Irian Jaya Pythons, Royal Pythons, Leopard Geckos and dart frogs.

Baby Sorong GTP's available, bred by me this year. PM for details.

If you read my post again you will see that I categorically exclude people who sell for genuine reasons (such as expecting a new arrival!) I actually wrote it in such a way as I wouldn't include you specifically 'cos I'd seen you had a genuine reason and didn't want you to think I was getting at you - I obviously failed miserabley as you've now accused me of wingeing and not 'getting info first' -something that I pride myself on doing.


I also understand that there are other circumstances where people would like to extend their collection etc, and I can see where they are coming from. I just can't get over the fact that many on the classifieds really come across as if they dont give a dam about the animals in their collection, have got bored and want to move on to the next thing - I'm sure I even read a post where a beautiful monitor was shown off and then after a few really positive comments the OP posted I want to (quote) "get rid"!. I agree that the animals may not necessarily be emotionally attached and that they may even be better looked after by someone who cares but if you are genuinely concerned about them, then surely a more 'rehome' based line should be taken with carefult vetting and a small charge to ensure they are going to a better home.

Of course my arguement, was more humans becoming attached to the animals not the other way around!

Cheers


Andy

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I really dont get the mentality of this place at times, a corn is a corn, or multi colour swap shop etc etc

Some people have done green trees, carpets, ackies, garters, milks, kings, eyed lizards or whatever etc etc and have no interest in them now, some never will, some will be happy with a single corn, garter, king, leopard gecko or beardie, for some the genetic side IS the interest

Certain species aren't just a stepping stone for some, sometimes a species IS the interest, sometimes i think theres too much elitism on here at times, sometimes i wonder why i even bother coming on here

Sorry but i find something wrong with the whole my snakes/lizards better, bigger, scarier, more interesting, rarer than yours mentality, its not just this thread, theres many on here recently, i just find it really sad

Rant over, time to move on

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MY SNAKES AND INVERTSLAVENDER 1.1BUTTER 1.0ABBOTTS OKEETEE 2.1BLOODRED 1.1STRAWBERRY SNOW 0.1ULTRAMEL HET CARAMEL 0.1STRIPED HOUSE SNAKE 0.1CAPE HOUSE SNAKE 0.1.1AMEL CAPE HOUSE SNAKE 1.1ROYAL PYTHON 0.1MEXICAN RED KNEE 0.0.3BRAZILLIAN WHITE KNEE 0.0.2GIANT SPINEY STICK INSECTS 2.3

I sold all of my Lizards (apart from my original 2 Leos). They have all gone to knowledgable homes, and were sold for a considerable loss! However, I don't think I did anything wrong at all. I bought my Dragons, gave them great care, and when my circumstances changed, re-homed them. I was very fussy about where they went to!
I don't want people to think bad of me because my interest is now in Snakes.

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hear hear!

Why is a corn any less of an animal to keep than any other, morph or not. Just because your particular interest is in keeping harder and harder species to keep does not in anyway make you a better herp enthusiast (or person) than the person who keeps 10 or so 8+year old corns because previous owners have 'moved on' and they are no longer wanted.

I find the elitism and snobbery in this hobby most distasteful.

Cheers

Andy

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all corns or whatever morphs all have the same care... now a corn and a tree boa are very different...boa constrictor morphs are still boas to a blind man...they all have the same care...a bci is a bci no matter how you see it.

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I think it's better to come on here and sell them, at least you know they'll go to a good home. It's better than you keeping it, getting bored and not looking after it (as someone has said previously).

I've never known a forum like this one. All people do is bicker at one another. I don't understand why we can't all just do things our own way and stop judging or criticising people for doing something that we don't necessarily like or agree with.

Another thing we all need to remember is that what is said on the internet can be completely misinterpreted because you cannot tell what way/tone the person is talking in.

Someone selling reptiles on here may seem like they don't care, when actually they do. They amount of times i've seen 'i didn't mean for it to sound like that'!

All this reminds me of being back at school. It's petty.

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