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Old 18-03-2008, 09:36 AM
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i been studying macro for 3 years now.Im lucky enough to have the best macro lens + flash set up on the market..all the info iv learnt i will post on this thread..If u need any advice just ask,.i had a thread for slr started at another forum so iv manged to copy alot of the info on to here..i hope it helps u.
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Old 18-03-2008, 09:41 AM
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if u want the best macro shots u can get your have to buy a SLR

What is an SLR system?
The main advantage of an SLR camera over the point-and-shoots is that you can change the lenses so you can have exactly the right lens for the subject you're shooting.Of course when you're in the field, the right lens will always be the one you left at home because it's too heavy, but that's another story.

"SLR" stands for "Single Lens Reflex" and "DSLR" stands for "Digital Single Lens Reflex". When you look through the viewfinder, you actually look through some prisms and mirrors, and you wind up looking through the lens. When you trip the shutter, the mirror flips out of the way, and the scene that is projected on the film is exactly what you saw through the viewfinder. If you put on a different lens, you automatically see a different scene through the viewfinder.Theres many good SLRs on the market..for me canon is best..

For any one thats intrested in getting a slr the 400D will do u fine.(its what i use) Body cost - 375£
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Old 18-03-2008, 09:48 AM
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TUTORIALS: DEPTH OF FIELD -

Depth of field is the range of distance around the focal plane which is acceptably sharp.The depth of field varies depending on camera type, aperture and focusing distance, although print size and viewing distance can influence our perception of it. This section is designed to give a better intuitive and technical understanding for photography, and provides a depth of field calculator to show how it varies with your camera settings

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The depth of field does not abruptly change from sharp to unsharp, but instead occurs as a gradual transition. In fact, everything immediately in front of or in back of the focusing distance begins to lose sharpness-- even if this is not perceived by our eyes or by the resolution of the camera.



Since there is no critical point of transition, a more rigorous term called the "circle of confusion" is used to define how much a point needs to be blurred in order to be perceived as unsharp. When the circle of confusion becomes perceptible to our eyes, this region is said to be outside the depth of field and thus no longer "acceptably sharp." The circle of confusion above has been exaggerated for clarity; in reality this would be only a tiny fraction of the camera sensor's area.



When does the circle of confusion become perceptible to our eyes? An acceptably sharp circle of confusion is loosely defined as one which would go unnoticed when enlarged to a standard 8x10 inch print, and observed from a standard viewing distance of about 1 foot.

At this viewing distance and print size, camera manufactures assume a circle of confusion is negligible if no larger than 0.01 inches (when enlarged). As a result, camera manufacturers use the 0.01 inch standard when providing lens depth of field markers (shown below for f/22 on a 50mm lens). In reality, a person with 20-20 vision or better can distinguish features 1/3 this size or smaller, and so the circle of confusion has to be even smaller than this to achieve acceptable sharpness throughout.

A different maximum circle of confusion also applies for each print size and viewing distance combination. In the earlier example of blurred dots, the circle of confusion is actually smaller than the resolution of your screen for the two dots on either side of the focal point, and so these are considered within the depth of field. Alternatively, the depth of field can be based on when the circle of confusion becomes larger than the size of your digital camera's pixels.

Note that depth of field only sets a maximum value for the circle of confusion, and does not describe what happens to regions once they become out of focus. These regions also called "bokeh," from Japanese (pronounced bo-ké). Two images with identical depth of field may have significantly different bokeh, as this depends on the shape of the lens diaphragm. In reality, the circle of confusion is usually not actually a circle, but is only approximated as such when it is very small. When it becomes large, most lenses will render it as a polygonal shape with 5-8 sides.

CONTROLLING DEPTH OF FIELD
Although print size and viewing distance are important factors which influence how large the circle of confusion appears to our eyes, aperture and focal distance are the two main factors that determine how big the circle of confusion will be on your camera's sensor. Larger apertures (smaller F-stop number) and closer focal distances produce a shallower depth of field. The following depth of field test was taken with the same focus distance and a 200 mm lens (320 mm field of view on a 35 mm camera), but with various apertures

F/8

f/5.6

f/2.8
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Old 18-03-2008, 09:49 AM
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People often ask me "Why not just use the smallest aperture (largest number) to achieve the best possible depth of field"?

Other than the fact that this may require prohibitively long shutter speeds without a tripod, too small of an aperture softens the image by creating a larger circle of confusion (or "Airy disk") due to an effect called diffraction-- even within the plane of focus. Diffraction quickly becomes more of a limiting factor than depth of field as the aperture gets smaller. Despite their extreme depth of field, this is also why "pinhole cameras" have limited resolution.
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Ok here's something

My camera takes pretty good quality Macros, it's not an SLR mind.
Problem is, setting the camera to "super macro" kills the flash.
Using this setting, with the dial set to Auto, is fine. However, I get slower shutter speeds, not ideal for pics of snakes.
Using this setting on either Manual, or Shutter priority (with fast shutter set), just gives me really dark/black shots.

Other than going out, buying 10 halogen headlights from a monster truck and flooding the room with light -

Would there be any other method of getting macros, with fast shutter speeds? Any settings I might be missing (High ISO has either little effect at 1/80 or higher shutter, or just has to much noise)
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Shutter speed
can have a dramatic impact on the appearance of moving objects. Changes in background blurring are apparent from the need to adjust the aperture size to achieve proper exposure.
The shutter speed dial of a Fujica STX-1.
Slow shutter speed combined with panning the camera can achieve a motion blur for moving objects.
A photo of sparks coming from coals (exposure time 15 seconds)
A photo of dark street at night (exposure time 20 seconds)In photography, shutter speed is the time for which the shutter is held open during the taking of a photograph to allow light to reach the film or image sensor (in a digital camera).

In combination with variation of the lens aperture, the shutter speed regulates how much light the camera will record. For a given exposure, a fast shutter speed demands a larger aperture or more light to avoid under-exposure, just as a slow shutter speed is offset by a very small aperture to avoid over-exposure. Long shutter speeds are often used in low light conditions, such as at night.

Shutter speed is measured in seconds. A typical shutter speed for photographs taken in sunlight is 1/125th of a second. In addition to its effect on exposure, shutter speed changes the way movement appears in the picture. Very short shutter speeds are used to freeze fast-moving subjects, for example at sporting events. Very long shutter speeds are used to intentionally blur a moving subject for artistic effect.

In early days of photography, available shutter speeds were somewhat ad hoc. Following the adoption of a standardized way of representing aperture so that each major step exactly doubled or halved the amount of light entering the camera (f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8, f/11, f/16, etc.), a standardized 2:1 scale was adopted for shutter speed so that opening one aperture stop and reducing the shutter speed by one step resulted in the identical exposure. The agreed standard for shutter speeds is:

1/8000 s
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1/2000 s
1/1000 s
1/500 s
1/250 s
1/125 s
1/60 s
1/30 s
1/15 s
1/8 s
1/4 s
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Ok here's something

My camera takes pretty good quality Macros, it's not an SLR mind.
Problem is, setting the camera to "super macro" kills the flash.
Using this setting, with the dial set to Auto, is fine. However, I get slower shutter speeds, not ideal for pics of snakes.
Using this setting on either Manual, or Shutter priority (with fast shutter set), just gives me really dark/black shots.

Other than going out, buying 10 halogen headlights from a monster truck and flooding the room with light -

Would there be any other method of getting macros, with fast shutter speeds? Any settings I might be missing (High ISO has either little effect at 1/80 or higher shutter, or just has to much noise)
if u can set your camera on manual mode..use these settings

iso 100
fstop 8-16
shutter speed 125-200
full flash
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What is True Macro Photography?
Although many lens manufacturers (including Canon) tend to use the "macro" designation in a rather cavalier fashion its important to remember the difference between true macro photography and simple "close-up" photography. A picture of a flower up close doesn't make it a macro shot!!

The true definition of macro photography, also known as "photomacrography" is production of an image that is the same size (or larger) on the film plane as in real life (lifesize). Thus, if you photograph an insect that is 2 centimeters long at 1:1 (lifesize), it's image will be 2 centimeters long at the film plane or digital sensor.
The most common way to increase magnification is to get the lens as far away from the film plane as possible. There are a couple of ways to do this including extension tubes, bellows (those accordion-looking gizmos), close-up filters, and of course using a true macro lens like the MP-E 65 which i use.

This lens is much easier to use than any of the other methods. A simple twist of the lens barrel moves the elements away from the film plane creating the bellows effect.
Extension tubes do the same thing (they're nothing but hollow tubes with no lens elements) but you'll need to stack several of them to achieve 2x magnification. Having said that, extension tubes are far less expensive than the MP-E 65 lens which is currenty mark at 550£.and if you want higher magnification on your current 1:1 macro lens (like the Sigma 50mm, Sigma 105mm, or Canon 100mm) you should give the tubes first.
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Just what we need , I was hoping you would use this section macrojunkie


Xiorell - You could simply use a lamp, I use a cheap ikea lamp (£6) all the time and white card or even card covered with foil to bounce light back onto the subject.
I would definately recommend learning to use your camera on manual mode as Macrojunkie suggested, Ive only been doing this for the last couple of months and will never look back.
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If your interested in macro and u allready have an slr u will be needing a macro lens..sigma 50mm,105mm,tamron 90mm,canon 60mm and 100mm..all these lens are perfect for true macro which at full zoom all will give u 1:1 life size.
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