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Old 26-03-2008, 08:12 PM
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so what is a super RAPTOR? and theoretically if i bred a raptor and a tremper super snow, would they produce tremper mack snows 100% het for raptor component genes(stripe rev stripe giant orange ect), what would happen if i bred brothers to sisters or offspring to parents? has anyone done this yet? i think this will be next years project for me lol, just got to find a female tremper mack super snow(100% het RAPTOR) and be able to afford her
Don't beleave the hype no such thing.Super snow body pattern and colour are dominant over patternless stripe.And super snow black eye is dominant over eclipse so there are no super RAPTOR's only albino super snow het eclipse.In the link is a a so called NON albino form of the so called super RAPTOR other than the white washed nose it is every bit a standed super snow the white wash nose you could use a a indercator that it is het eclipse but other than that i see no point and they aren't going to be worth the price tag.I see nother super RAPTOR about these there just super snow het eclipse.

A so called NON albino super RAPTOR.More like super snow het eclipse & albino.


Super snow.


A so called super RAPTOR.More like Tremper albino super snow het eclipse incubated high temp.


Tremper albino super snow incubated high temp.


Tremper albino super snow incubated lower temp.

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Old 26-03-2008, 08:27 PM
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those last two are lovely especially like the final one i'll be on the look out for a female, any idea what i might have to pay?
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Old 26-03-2008, 08:57 PM
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those last two are lovely especially like the final one i'll be on the look out for a female, any idea what i might have to pay?
Home grown geckos has a girl Tremper albino super snow £300 .
Web link.Home Grown Geckos, geckos for sale, buy, incubator, reptiles, gallery, eggs. carrot, hypotangarine, leopard gecko, caresheet, behaviour, feeding, available, vivarium, equipment, terms, breeders, morphs, care for geckos, geckos available
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Old 26-03-2008, 09:17 PM
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i like this one too its at Home Grown Geckos, geckos for sale, buy, incubator, reptiles, gallery, eggs. carrot, hypotangarine, leopard gecko, caresheet, behaviour, feeding, available, vivarium, equipment, terms, breeders, morphs, care for geckos, geckos available
it says its a banded mack snow raptor. worth the money or not?
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Old 26-03-2008, 10:10 PM
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Yes worth the money if you've got it.Breeding it to your RAPTOR you'll get Albino eclipse mack snow patternless striped now they look differant way better than so called albino eclipse super snow patternless striped.Below a albino eclipse mack snow patternless striped.

You could even get these albino eclipse mack snow reverse striped.
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Old 26-03-2008, 10:14 PM
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I hate to say it, but it is technically IMPOSSIBLE for a Mack Snow to be a RAPTOR.

The point is that a RAPTOR is Ruby-eyed Albino Patternless-Reversestripe Tremper ORange - it's got to be a high orange tangerine animal. A Mack Snow - or Mack Super Snow - is NOT high orange and by nature reduces the amount of orange and yellow colouration and therefore doesn't meet the ORange part.

What you could get is an Eclipse Mack Super Snow Patternless Reverse Stripe... but that ain't a RAPTOR. Proving it was an Eclipse would be a bit of a pain too - though I'd assume that the Patternless Reverse Stripe should wipe out some of the body spotting.

Though I love Homegrown's geckos overall, the animal you've shown a photo of does not meet the criteria for being a RAPTOR because it does not have the Patternless Reverse-Stripe patterning. It's a normal banded animal. Not to mention it ain't orange either.
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so the gecko i posted is labled wrong on the website as only animals that are ruby eyed albino patternless(from stripexrevstripe)tremper orange are raptors, which would be the best morph to create something cool? i,ve got money for the right animal
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Below a albino eclipse mack snow patternless striped.

You could even get these albino eclipse mack snow reverse striped.
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where are these geckos gazz? have you seen them for sale, i only want to buy from the uk
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so the gecko i posted is labled wrong on the website as only animals that are ruby eyed albino patternless(from stripexrevstripe)tremper orange are raptors, which would be the best morph to create something cool? i,ve got money for the right animal
What do you personally think "looks cool"? What I think is the bees' knees you might think is boring (I like monochrome not-at-all-orange geckos - perfect black, white and grey Mack Snows, solid white blizzards with no yellow staining and so on).

If you like orange, hybinos and things like the Tangerine Tornados and RAPTOR/APTOR are for you.
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Old 26-03-2008, 10:56 PM
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I hate to say it, but it is technically IMPOSSIBLE for a Mack Snow to be a RAPTOR.

The point is that a RAPTOR is Ruby-eyed Albino Patternless-Reversestripe Tremper ORange - it's got to be a high orange tangerine animal. A Mack Snow - or Mack Super Snow - is NOT high orange and by nature reduces the amount of orange and yellow colouration and therefore doesn't meet the ORange part.

What you could get is an Eclipse Mack Super Snow Patternless Reverse Stripe... but that ain't a RAPTOR. Proving it was an Eclipse would be a bit of a pain too - though I'd assume that the Patternless Reverse Stripe should wipe out some of the body spotting.

Though I love Homegrown's geckos overall, the animal you've shown a photo of does not meet the criteria for being a RAPTOR because it does not have the Patternless Reverse-Stripe patterning. It's a normal banded animal. Not to mention it ain't orange either.
That's why i refram from saying RAPTOR as much as possible i refer to the eye gene and the body strain.So the one HGG's has i'd refer to as Tremper albino eclipse normal-(Trait carrier of jungle,striped,reverse striped,Patternless striped).I disagree with the eclipse mack super snow patternless striped as super snow body pattern and colour and super snow black eye is dominant over eclipse and patternless striped.You'd only get albino super snow het eclipse-(T'c of jungle,striped,reverse striped,patternless striped).
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