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Old 25-03-2008, 09:54 PM
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Default mack tremper?

is there such a thing as a mack super snow tremper and would it have eclipse eyes but red like a RAPTOR?
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Old 25-03-2008, 09:57 PM
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Yes, there are Mack Super Snow Tremper Albinos.

They do have solid red eyes but they do NOT carry the Eclipse gene that is responsible for the solid eyes in RAPTORs.
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Old 25-03-2008, 10:10 PM
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so what sort of red eyes do they have? like a red eyed enigma? or do they look like RAPTOR eyes but from a different genetic combination?
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Old 25-03-2008, 10:21 PM
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They have a Mack Super Snow eye, but in red instead of black.

I don't think you get "snake eyed" Mack Super Snows like you do RAPTORs; they're definitely not like a red-eyed Enigma.
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Old 25-03-2008, 10:28 PM
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ok so supposing i managed to get a mack super snow tremper with red eyes and i bred it to my RAPTOR male what would happen?
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Old 25-03-2008, 11:40 PM
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ok so supposing i managed to get a mack super snow tremper with red eyes and i bred it to my RAPTOR male what would happen?
You'd get 100% Tremper albino mack snow het eclipse.Thing is Tremper strain eclipse is seperate from the body morph of a leo.A albino patternless striped comes with eclipse-(RAPTOR) or with out eclipse-(APTOR).But black/Red eye on a super snow is linked solely to the super snow body pattern it is half of what make a super snow a super snow.

Eclipse banded X banded(no trait) = 100% banded het eclipse.

Super snow X banded(no trait) = 100% mack snow.

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Old 26-03-2008, 12:21 PM
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so what is a super RAPTOR? and theoretically if i bred a raptor and a tremper super snow, would they produce tremper mack snows 100% het for raptor component genes(stripe rev stripe giant orange ect), what would happen if i bred brothers to sisters or offspring to parents? has anyone done this yet? i think this will be next years project for me lol, just got to find a female tremper mack super snow(100% het RAPTOR) and be able to afford her
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Old 26-03-2008, 12:35 PM
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Super raptor is a super snow raptor.
If you breed a raptor x super tremper you'd get 100% mack trempers het raptor so you were right about that. And offspring would give trempers, mack trempers, super snow trempers, raptors, mack raptors, super raptors.
And yes mack raptors and super raptors have been produced already
If you want a super tremper het raptor you can start saving :P geckosetc. will probably sell them for $800-1000 if not more.
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Old 26-03-2008, 12:46 PM
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so if i could get a female mack super snow tremper that would be a good starting point, has anyone got any pics or even one for sale please?
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Old 26-03-2008, 12:47 PM
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If you go look on Ron Tremper's SS page, you will see a Tremper SS with red eyes
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