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27-03-2008, 12:07 PM
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Genes for Behaviour?
I'm slowly starting to understand genetics but all the focus seems to be on looks.
What about behaviour? Read some posts where people have said that sunglow corns are a bit more feisty/snappy? Also when I was looking into buying a TransPeco Rat snake I read somewhere that people shouldn't breed to get more prominent bug eyes as these snakes are 'evil'. True/False? I'd be interested on peoples experience/opinions on this.
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27-03-2008, 12:11 PM
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i find that blizzard leo geckos bite more lol
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27-03-2008, 02:43 PM
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27-03-2008, 02:47 PM
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I wouldn't believe people saying "bug eyes" make them evil. They probably appear more evil as we attach human meanings to the poor things.
But behavior is partly determined by genes but you won't necessarily find a gene which specifically controls an exact example of behavior. But on a more general scale, genes can influence brain size, aggression etc. Mental traits are the results of physical traits. Chemical reactions and biological functions bring you the "nice" or "nasty" or "intelligent" behaviors you find. So it is possible to breed behaviors in a sense, but don't expect to find a dominant or recessive gene for "enjoys cuddles" or something. It can be confusing, but there isn't literally a gene for every trait. Genes can piggyback with others and many traits are the result of one gene which has nothing really to do with the trait as you would imagine it. Some fish have lost their eyes through the process of evolution. Did they lose the gene for their eye? No. But in their newer, darker environment, natural selection favored a specific gene which improved the animal's sense of taste. But, this exact mutation also, indirectly influenced the development of the eyes. So this is actually a gene which codes for the sense of taste while actually affecting other traits too. The animals behavior is controlled by the brain obviously, and that isn't as simple as the colour of an animal. Some parts are though! There is a specific gene which will stop us from being able to put words together in a sentence and that's all it currently does. But other traits (homosexuality, intelligence, tameness etc) can come down a jumbled mess of different genes all playing their part and influencing traits together. Unfortunately, there is no reason why you can't breed two lovely behaved snakes or lizards, and give birth to little devils!
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27-03-2008, 06:18 PM
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there is the recessive 'stargazing' gene in corns that causes the snake to wave its head in the air or crawl upside down while feeding/excited/stressed.
Theres some pics/video clips somewhere, I'll see if i can find them for you .....here they are: http://cccorns.com/freepics/2007/Jan/StarGazers.avi http://cccorns.com/freepics/2007/Jan/StarGazers2.avi
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   Last edited by eeji : 27-03-2008 at 06:26 PM. Reason: add video links
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27-03-2008, 07:08 PM
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28-03-2008, 01:17 PM
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I'd heard about the stargazing and realise that it is an inherited neuro-logical disorder.
Interesting point about the bug eyes look more evil so it is the way we interpret this and alter our behaviour accordingly. I suspect that this is the same with many aspects of reptile keeping, i.e. certain behaviours seen as 'cute' or 'agressive'. I've no doubt also that the environment does play a part on the way the animal turns out. Before I got my first snake I had one (ex)friend who bought a cali-king because he thought it would make him look cool. He used to tease it all the time if anyone was there and ignore it the rest of the time. As it got bigger he got board of being bit and got rid of it. Despite all this, reptiles are primitive animals that don't have a neo-cortex. Having only a brainstem and cerebellum they are animals that base their behaviour on instinct and fullfilling their basic needs. Does this lead to a greater influence on behaviour from genetics than a more evolved species or less? I could see that both would be possible.
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28-03-2008, 02:49 PM
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funyn thing is sunkissed are now looked upon as being naturally agressive which makes me think..
had the gene just been diluted now we cant SEE the stargaxzing but neuroligically something else is going on underneath,...
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its a recessive, and first appeared some years ago in Sunkissed lines in the USA
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