mack what?

boywonder · #1 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 10:07 PM

i am getting a RAPTOR next weekend and wanted to know
if i had a tremper super snow like this one

and bred her with my RAPTOR

would i have a chance of producing some of these

the website calls it a banded mack snow raptor 2 ruby eyes and states one step from a super RAPTOR is it realy just an albino mack snow het RAPTOR component genes?

Ssthisto · #2 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by boywonder

i am getting a RAPTOR next weekend and wanted to know
if i had a tremper super snow like this one

and bred her with my RAPTOR

would i have a chance of producing some of these

Not in the first generation.

Eclipse (the gene that makes the ruby eyes in an albino animal) is a recessive gene and you would NOT see visuals in the first generation of breeding. You would expect 100% Mack Snow Albino het Eclipse, possibly with aberrant patterning and excessive yellow colouring.

[/quote]the website calls it a banded mack snow raptor 2 ruby eyes and states one step from a super RAPTOR is it realy just an albino mack snow het RAPTOR component genes?[/quote]

One, RAPTOR is by definition NOT banded - it's patternless reverse striped. Therefore, the description of the animal is wrong - if it shows a banded pattern it can't be a RAPTOR.
That animal is an Eclipse-Eyed Mack Snow Albino.

Breeding two of those together would produce 25% Eclipse Super Snow Albinos, 50% Eclipse Mack Snow Albinos and 25% Eclipse Albinos.

boywonder · #3 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 10:37 PM

so the gene that makes ruby eyes in raptors has no relation to the super snows eclipse eyes, i'd need to breed the offspring back to the mother to get red eyed super snows possibly with some stripes from the raptor father from the first breeding? would they be a desirable cross or should i look for another female morph?

Ssthisto · #4 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by boywonder

so the gene that makes ruby eyes in raptors has no relation to the super snows eclipse eyes, i'd need to breed the offspring back to the mother to get red eyed super snows possibly with some stripes from the raptor father from the first breeding? would they be a desirable cross or should i look for another female morph?

Super Snows do not have eclipse eyes. They have Super Snow eyes. The eyes and the dotted lines pattern trait and the reduced or absent yellow are all tied together.

Eclipse is the recessive trait that makes Ruby Eclipse eyes in RAPTORs and Eclipse eyes in non-albino Eclipse animals and can cause the "snake eye" effect where PART of the eye is coloured and part is not.

And THAT isn't related to "blizzard snake eye" either.

If you want to get red-eyed Super Snows, breed an Albino of any strain to a Super Snow, then cross a pair of the offspring together. One in sixteen of the babies should be solid red eyed Albino Super Snows. Or cross two unrelated Mack Snow Albinos together - you've got a 1 in 4 chance then.

Crossing a RAPTOR to a Super Snow does the same thing - because the only trait you NEED to get a red-eyed Super Snow is the albino that the RAPTOR carries.

You may not get any stripe/reverse stripe/patternless reverse stripe at all. I'm not sure how inheritable this is - it's possible that Reverse Stripe is a recessive, but I'm aware that the "patternless" part of it is selective breeding applied TO the "reverse stripe".

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