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Old 30-03-2008, 01:04 PM
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Right, I am quite good at genetics in general even if i do say so myself.
But I want to do it the best way.

I want to make a 'patternless albino super snow' in the end.
I have a patternless female.
Do I get a macksnow female or macksnow male and what albino ? m or f ?
Also what type of albino ?
And in which order would you do it .

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Old 30-03-2008, 02:11 PM
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you could get a male mack albino and breed it to the female giving you:

50% normal het for albino and patternless
50% mack het for albino and patternless

you can then breed the mack double het offspring to give you mack snow patternless albino, you might get patternless albino super snow.
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Old 30-03-2008, 03:49 PM
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id start off with a Patternless albino and Mack supersnow.
Breed these and the outcome will be
100% macksnow het patternless and albino
Breed them together and you have a 1/16 chance of patternless albino supersnow i think.

im rubbish at this sort of thing tho so someone please confirm that im right or correct me lol.
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Old 30-03-2008, 04:44 PM
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Well I have a patty girl so want to include her.
The mack albino sounds good.
How much do you think they will be this year for a male ?
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Old 31-03-2008, 08:35 PM
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Bump, how much for a male albino mack do you think ?
Also what type of albino :S

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Old 31-03-2008, 10:20 PM
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you can use any albino strain but trempers are easiest to find and cheapest of course. Just depends on what you prefer
I bought my male mack snow tremper albino for 130 euros on the last Hamm show from steve sykes. (Bells are more expensive)
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id start off with a Patternless albino and Mack supersnow.
Breed these and the outcome will be
100% macksnow het patternless and albino
Breed them together and you have a 1/16 chance of patternless albino supersnow i think.

im rubbish at this sort of thing tho so someone please confirm that im right or correct me lol.
Sorry, not a 1/16 chance. Breed them together and you have a 1/64 chance of patternless albino supersnow.

There are a number of ways to do the breeding, depending on where you start. Patternless albino and Mack supersnow would be a good starting point if the animals are available and you have the money. You might be able to save a bit by going with a Mack snow, but I'm not sure how much. If possible, try for a Mack snow that is also either het albino or het patternless.

Mack snow het albino x patternless albino -->
1/4 Mack snow albino het patternless

Mack snow albino het patternless x Mack snow albino het patternless -->
1/16 Mack super snow albino patternless

If I had to start with an albino, a patternless, and a Mack snow, I'd get two females and a male, with the male being either a patternless or an albino. One female would be a Mack snow, and the other would be either patternless or albino, whichever the male is not. Lets say the male is albino.

First generation -- keep the Mack snow het albino and the het albino het patternless and breed them together.

Second generation -- keep the Mack snow albino. These are also 50% probability het patternless. You can breed these together, and on the average, a quarter of the matings would be Mack snow albino het patternless x Mack snow albino het patternless. Or you could breed to patternless geckos to find some Mach snow albinos that are proven het patternless. Then breed Mack snow albino het patternless x Mack snow albino het patternless as above.

Good luck.
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Well im going to go the albino mack snow male and my female patternless.
Just need the male.
Im going to Hamm in September will these be available and will they be a reasonable price ?
Thanks for the help everyone !!!!!
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:31 PM
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the definetely will
best you can do is make a reservation with geckosetc. or ron tremper but if you don't there are plenty at the shows
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:42 PM
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Who did you get yours off BG Gecko ?
Which would you recomend.
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