tremper super het (maybe?)

boywonder · #1 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 12:35 AM

i have recently managed to obtain a juvenile female tremper mack super snow possibly het raptor, her grandmother was tremper super snow and her grandfather was a raptor, her mother and father were both offspring from this breeding (tremper mack snow het raptor components) she is tremper super snow but will she be 100% het for raptor genes or some other percentage like 66% possible

Ssthisto · #2 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 06:30 PM

RAPTOR isn't one gene.

She is a 66% het Eclipse.
She may or may not carry the selective breeding traits that produce Patternless-ReverseStripe.

I assume she's a Mack Albino (Tremper Strain).

I will say that a Mack Snow can't be het for or fully RAPTOR since the OR part doesn't exist in Mack Snows. They could be RAPTY (Ruby-eyed Patternless-reversestripe Tremperalbino YELLOW) but they will never be ORANGE.

boywonder · #3 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:12 PM

she's a tremper super snow, she's all pink with red eyes, she has no yellow whatsoever, so when i breed her with my raptor male next season if i get any albino eclipse youngsters will that prove she is het eclipse or can you expect any babies with only one eclipse or het eclipse parent, does anyone know how much a mack snow eclipse is worth this season?

Ssthisto · #4 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:21 PM

Yes, if you get any eclipse or snake-eyed Albino Mack Snow offspring, that proves she is het Eclipse.

boywonder · #5 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:31 PM

will the offspring be worth much next season or are lots of people able to breed mack snow eclipses?

Ssthisto · #6 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:36 PM

No clue. I don't go into breeding projects on the basis of them making me loads of dosh - I do it on "what I want to make to keep myself, and think I can sell the 'byproducts' of what I don't want to keep and hope to break even."

boywonder · #7 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:46 PM

i am aiming for hypo super snow (tremper) eclipses eventually but am unsure weather i will be able to sell the offspring that i don't want to include in my ongoing breeding project. i don't want to be stuck with a hundred geckos that nobody wants on the off chance i might produce the one that I want!! is there a reasonable market in the uk for morphs over the £100 mark?

boywonder · #8 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:52 PM

i'm not trying to be greedy saying geckos over £100 but i don't want to de-value nice gecko morphs by offering them at realy low prices. i'm not in it to make any money but i'll want a fair price my local shop said £50ish for a hypo super snow albino regardless of any hets so they can sod off but do breeders have trouble selling any unwanted geckos?

Ssthisto · #9 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 08:55 PM

It's a LOT easier (in my experience) to sell visible morph offspring for £100 than it is to sell any £10 little normals.

Mack Albinos are still pretty decent price-wise (last ones I saw were £90-ish) ... think £75 and you're probably not far off.

As for your local shop offering £50 for a Super Snow Ghost Albino... they're having a bit of a chuckle there aren't they? Nah, what they're trying to do is get 'em for trade price, and you can bet they'd list them for three to five times that price.

Happens with normals too - I got paid £10 each for eight 12-week-old big juvenile geckos; they were sold in the shop for £45 each.

boywonder · #10 (**permalink**) 11-04-2008, 09:04 PM

thats what i've been worrying about, i usualy get 15 quid shop credit per high yellow 1month old leo which is fine as the shop has to make a profit but next year will be my first year with more than two breeding females and i keep thinking "what do i do if no-one wants any of my babies" the shop won't want loads and loads of babie leo's.
the raptor will be the father to offspring produced from the females in my sig, thats around 8 hatchlings per female = 32 geckos, i might keep one or two but will i be able to sell 30+ geckos?

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