As Athravan stated; if you find a ''het pastel'' you are being conned as they don't exist.

Paulh is refferring to dominant recessiveness; a visual het from a co-dominant morph (for example a pastel could be called a heterozygous form of a super pastel). Although as mentioned this is not a term usually coined in the Uk; where any ''hets'' are of reccessive strain.

Your best bet is to buy yourself a well grown on subadult or adult visual morph such as a spider, pastel, mojave etc if you are looking to produce royals of a morph in the first clutch.

However, it is also well worth trying to get hold of a female het albino. By breeding two hets together, hypothetically 1 in 4 hatchlings will be a visual albino. Although in reality you may get more than one albino, or none at all; it all depends on how the genes ''fall''.

You could also consider getting a visual albino female to breed your het to; the percentage of visual offspring should be higher; plus you would then have the bonus of a visual female to use in subsequent breedings. (a male albino will be able to breed to numerous females, yes; but an adult female albino can breed to any suitable male to produce offspring which could reach breeding size in potentially a shorter timespan than breeding a female hatchling up for 3years to breed back to her.)

I meant to add; the suggestion of getting an albino or het to pair with your male was to make use of his albino gene. As you were looking to produce visual offspring in the first generation (F1), going down the route of a dominant/codominant morph will just further delay and dilute (as such) the albino gene.

For example, if you were to breed your male to a pastel female; the offspring would all be '50% het albino' and half would also be visual pastels. (half pastel 50% het albino; half normals 50% het albino).

Therefore you would need to keep a larger number of the females back for a higher chance of actually getting one which was het albino. (50% basically just means that half the litter will be het albino, half will be completely normal, but as there is no way of visually determining which are which they are all termed 50% hets; as in a 50% chance).

emm when u said pastel did you mean super pastel or just pastel and should i get a baby, sub adult or adult. whichever one is best how much will it cost

The problem is that Heterozygous only means "the genes of a pair are different" - and has nothing to do with whether a gene is recessive to wildtype or not.

The use of "het" to mean "invisibly carrying a recessive gene" only is technically incorrect and leads to misunderstandings about dominant and codominant traits (and people wind up wondering "If spider is dominant why haven't I gotten ALL spider offspring?") and the difference between dominant and homozygous.

A pastel IS het for the pastel gene - two copies makes a super.
A normal het albino is also het normal-not-albino.
Most Spiders are likely to be het spiders.

To be completely honest, if you want visual albino offspring, you'll need to breed to a het or visual albino.
If you don't CARE about the albino babies, then breeding to a codominant gene like a pastel is going to be a quick way of getting visual offspring - you can get one in the first generation rather than having to wait and hope!

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