I have male 100% het albino Royal Python and am looking to breed him but am not sure what morph to breed him with. I am looking for a breed which will give the babies a nice, vivid colour and a good price tag. Can you help me out and how much the female will be.

Arran

You won't get any albinos unless you breed him to another albino or albino carrier.

The best you can hope for in first generation WITHOUT an albino female (and even then you'd only make, on average, half albinos) is any of the dominant or codominant genes - spider, pastel, pinstripe, mojave and so on.

Good luck finding an adult female that you won't be paying a very hefty price tag for For an adult breedable female of any morph, start budgeting for a minimum of £1000.

If you're looking for more of a three-year wait for the babies, you could budget to spend that same thousand pounds or so on a combination codominant morph like a Bumblebee or a Lesser Pastel...

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if i breed him with a het patel what babies will i get

Make sure your "het pastel" is VISUALLY a pastel. If it looks like a normal, it probably is - and doesn't carry the pastel gene.

You'd expect half pastels and half normals from that breeding if it IS a pastel, and they'd have a chance of carrying the albino gene invisibly.

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Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 4.4.8 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.0 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

dont hets look like normals but carry the genes of whatever genes it has because my royal does not look like an albino and it is 100% het albino

Not necessarily, Arran.

Pastel is what's called a "codominant" gene - it shows if you have one copy as a Pastel; it is a super pastel if the animal has two copies. The only way the animal will look normal is if there is NO pastel gene there at all.

Albino is a recessive, so you HAVE to have two copies in order to have it look like an Albino.

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Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 4.4.8 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.0 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

Codominant genes do not have a het, the visual is the het, with a super for if both parents are the same. If you see a het pastel you are being conned, there is no such thing, het pastel is pastel, pastel x pastel = super pastel.

Albino is recessive, which is "invisible" until you have two parts.

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This is not correct. A het has two different genes in one gene pair. A pastel mutant gene paired with a normal gene fulfills that requirement.

The appearance of the het form determines whether the mutant gene is dominant, codominant, or recessive to the normal gene. A het albino looks normal, so the albino mutant gene is recessive to the normal gene. A het pastel snake (AKA pastel) does not look normal and does not look like a homozygous pastel (AKA super pastel) snake. Therefore, the pastel mutant gene is codominant to the normal gene.

See also the sticky titled "Genetics questions you were afraid to ask" in this forum.

Like I said - the visual is the het - I should have been more clear, codominant genes do have a het, which is the visual, but do not have a het like albino, an "invisible" recessive het which the OP was referring to.

But here in the UK, we do not advertise things as a het pastel, when you are receiving a visual pastel. People have bought het pastels in the past and been sold pastel siblings which are normals spending several hundreds on a snake that is basically a normal! In the UK if you are buying a pastel, you buy a pastel, or a super pastel... don't pay money for a het pastel unless it is actually a pastel.

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very true and techincally correct however that terminology is not used in the UK. Or at least not in the correct way, it's only ever used to con people out of a bit more cash than a normal for a "het pastel" that is visually normal, ie has nothing to do with the pastel gene except Dad was one...

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