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Old 22-04-2008, 08:42 AM
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Default Blazing Blizzard + Blizzard =?

First of all is there any difference between the two, if so, what?

and what will I get if I breed the two?
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Old 22-04-2008, 09:15 AM
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Yes, there is a difference. A blazing blizzard is an Albino Blizzard. A blizzard is just a blizzard.

So you'd expect all blizzard het albino
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Old 22-04-2008, 09:23 AM
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Genetics is so confusing lol.

so there is no visible difference between the two, just that any offspring of a blazing will be het albino?
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Old 22-04-2008, 09:57 AM
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There is a visual difference - a blazing blizzard has albino eyes (red, pink or tan) instead of normal/grey eyes. The gecko in my avatar is a blazing blizzard, and her eyes are tan.
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Old 22-04-2008, 10:10 AM
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There is a visual difference - a blazing blizzard has albino eyes (red, pink or tan) instead of normal/grey eyes. The gecko in my avatar is a blazing blizzard, and her eyes are tan.
Hi,
I have what i have been told are blazing blizzards, they are white in colour.
I have seen blizzards and they look yellow, am i right?
My two have dark eyes but are white???

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Old 22-04-2008, 10:22 AM
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Hey, Blizzards range in colour from white to pink ish grey, and exhibit a lack of pigmentation (yellow and black, although do exhibit yellow on their raised bumps). The only visual difference between the two therefore is the eye colour, as the gene that effects albinism is over-riden in all but this character (due to lack of pigmentation). So its the eye colour that is the give away.
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Old 22-04-2008, 10:24 AM
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Hi,
I have what i have been told are blazing blizzards, they are white in colour.
I have seen blizzards and they look yellow, am i right?
My two have dark eyes but are white???

John
Unless they have tan or pink eyes, they are NOT blazing blizzards. A blazing blizzard, by definition, is homozygous for albino as well as blizzard.

You can get very yellow normal blizzards, and you can also get very yellow blazing blizzards
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Old 22-04-2008, 10:30 AM
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Unless they have tan or pink eyes, they are NOT blazing blizzards. A blazing blizzard, by definition, is homozygous for albino as well as blizzard.

You can get very yellow normal blizzards, and you can also get very yellow blazing blizzards
They are white??? I will try to get a pic later.
On the top of there head above the eyes,it is a blue colour.....

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Old 22-04-2008, 10:49 AM
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The eye colour is most critical.

Doesn't matter what colour their back or their "eyeshadow" is

My blazing blizzard also never went grey at any point (normal blizzards do change colour with mood/temps same as patternless do) - she was always bright white no matter what.
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Old 22-04-2008, 10:59 AM
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I bought a pair of BB's both with different eye colouration, i confronted the breeder as i thought i was mis-sold a BB as my female had the dark eyes, the male had the Albino eyes-
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Firstly this debate re the Blazing Blizzards having red eyes has gone on since the morph was introduced. I purchased the first one offered in Europe it came from Mark Bell and did not have Red Eyes it still does not, the same applied to the female I purchased from the States a few months later. In addition if they are supposed to have red eyes how has Tremper been able to make a small fortune selling Red Eyed Blazing Blizzards at $1750-$2000 and calling them Diablo Blancos, he reckons these are the first with red eyes. I would further the arguement by stating that as most albinos do not have red eyes nor do blizzards why should the Blazing Blizzard? the name was devised to describe the body colour tone not the eyes. As I told you when you were here I have had red eyes or reddish eyes appear in several different animals and it is possible that this traight has appeared in some blazing blizzards throughout the world but it does not mean that others are not true Blazing Blizzards. Hopefully this explains the female you had from me.

I also put a rather extensive post on the US site

Here's the link:

Blazzing Blizzard question - GeckoForums.net

P.s - Sorry for the missing photo's, i've obviously deleted them from my Photobucket account, i will pop them on tonight!!

So any thoughts on this??
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