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Old 23-04-2008, 12:38 AM
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Default Yellow Belly Pieds?

Does anybody know of any Yellow Belly Piebald Projects/Combinations/Outcomes?
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Surely yellow belly x pied would = 100% het pied 50% het yellow belly
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Old 23-04-2008, 11:51 AM
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Surely yellow belly x pied would = 100% het pied 50% het yellow belly
No.

Yellowbelly is codominant, you cannot have 'het yellowbelly'.

If you were to breed YB to Pied you would get 1/2 clutch YB het Pied and 1/2 clutch Normal het Pied.

Breed YB het Pied x het Pied or visual Pied you should get a YB Pied.

If you bred YB het Pied x YB het Pied you should get Ivory Pied and I'd be buggered as to say that wouldn't be a white snake
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Only thing I can think is that it would be either pied with very pale YB side on the non white areas, normal pied looking but with the YB stripe on the white sections or an all white snake with pink YB eyes?
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No.

Yellowbelly is codominant, you cannot have 'het yellowbelly'.
Correction: you cannot have a het yellowbelly that looks normal. All yellowbellies are het yellowbelly because they have a yellowbelly mutant gene paired with a normal gene.
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Only thing I can think is that it would be either pied with very pale YB side on the non white areas, normal pied looking but with the YB stripe on the white sections or an all white snake with pink YB eyes?
Yellowbellies don't have pink eyes?

Homozygous YB (AKA "ivory") have dark-coloured eyes.

A pied YB would probably be a Yellowbelly with pied white patches; a pied Ivory would probably have the faint yellow stripe in the areas where it doesn't have the pied white patches, and would almost certainly have dark eyes.

That said it could turn out like the Lesser Pied, where you'd expect patches of white on a Lesser-coloured snake - but you GET a dark-eyed white snake.
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Thanks for your thoughts guys, I have what I believe to be a Yellow Belly Het Pied Female, would be interesting to see what her genetics are, all the more reason to invest in a male Yellow Belly!
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Thanks for your thoughts guys, I have what I believe to be a Yellow Belly Het Pied Female, would be interesting to see what her genetics are, all the more reason to invest in a male Yellow Belly!
What you probably need is a Pied male AND a yellowbelly

Otherwise, you wouldn't get your visual Pieds... just possible hets.
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What you probably need is a Pied male AND a yellowbelly

Otherwise, you wouldn't get your visual Pieds... just possible hets.

I have a Het Pied Male! So when this female is big enough, she'll be put with him.
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Correction: you cannot have a het yellowbelly that looks normal. All yellowbellies are het yellowbelly because they have a yellowbelly mutant gene paired with a normal gene.
If you're trying to be clever, Yellowbelly is heterozygous for Ivory, as is Pastel heterozygous for Super Pastel, and Cinnamon for Super Cinnamon etc etc.
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