well here is a shock i mated my male and female sunglows and have just seen the babies hatch and they both look normal . gorgeous little girls i know the female is def 100% tremper sunglow but i am not sure about the male i bought him from a pet shop because i fell in love with him.

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Eublepharis Macularius 4.9.2
Racodactylus Ciliatus 2.1
Tiliqua gigas evanesens 1.
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus 1.1
20 japanese koi carp
two border collies
1 15 year old corn snake
1 very patient husband 2 boys and a grandaughter

Congratulations, you have one of two situations:

1. Your female retained sperm from a breeding to a non-albino male - has she ever been bred to anything else?

2. You have two different strains of albino. Looking at what I presume is a photo of your male, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a Bell.

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- Ssthisto






Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 4.4.8 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.0 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

you can see parents in pics on reptiles post and tell me what you think its a baffler but i would appreciate some feedback please

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Eublepharis Macularius 4.9.2
Racodactylus Ciliatus 2.1
Tiliqua gigas evanesens 1.
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus 1.1
20 japanese koi carp
two border collies
1 15 year old corn snake
1 very patient husband 2 boys and a grandaughter

thanks for your reply no she has never been bred to anything else she has never been near another male apart from sunny my sunglow. wonder if he is a bell then what would my hatchlings be classed as

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Eublepharis Macularius 4.9.2
Racodactylus Ciliatus 2.1
Tiliqua gigas evanesens 1.
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus 1.1
20 japanese koi carp
two border collies
1 15 year old corn snake
1 very patient husband 2 boys and a grandaughter

Normal het Tremper Albino and (possibly Bell) another strain of Albino.

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- Ssthisto






Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 4.4.8 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.0 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

complicated this genetics Ssthisto thanks for your help

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Eublepharis Macularius 4.9.2
Racodactylus Ciliatus 2.1
Tiliqua gigas evanesens 1.
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus 1.1
20 japanese koi carp
two border collies
1 15 year old corn snake
1 very patient husband 2 boys and a grandaughter

yes i can also confirm this, but the female has never been bred before and is one of my 07 offspring.
parents of her are both tremper sunglows

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LEOPARD GECKO CRAZY
our website:


www.marksleopardgeckos.co.uk

hello Melanie babies are doing very well one of them has shed already and feeding .my friend is coming in the next couple of days to take some good pics so i can post and you can see how they are doing.Amber is fine she has lost none of her condition and looks like she is gravid again although i have moved sunny out so she doesnt get pestered .such a freindly girl she loves being spoiled lol

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Eublepharis Macularius 4.9.2
Racodactylus Ciliatus 2.1
Tiliqua gigas evanesens 1.
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus 1.1
20 japanese koi carp
two border collies
1 15 year old corn snake
1 very patient husband 2 boys and a grandaughter

another question then please to get visual albino from these 2 normal hets what would i breed them to and would it be the eye colour that would tell me the strain of albino thanks in advance and just to clear this in my own head are the hatchlings 100% het albino or would they be 66%

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Eublepharis Macularius 4.9.2
Racodactylus Ciliatus 2.1
Tiliqua gigas evanesens 1.
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus 1.1
20 japanese koi carp
two border collies
1 15 year old corn snake
1 very patient husband 2 boys and a grandaughter

They are 100% het for TWO kinds of albino.

To get visual albino offspring, you could:

Breed one to a known Tremper albino - you'd get normals who are guaranteed het Tremper albino and possible het "other" albino; you'd also get Tremper albinos who are possible het for the other albino strain
Breed them to each other - you could get Tremper albinos, the OTHER strain of albinos or Tremper/Other albinos. The only way to tell the difference between those is by breeding them to KNOWN Tremper or other strain albinos.

If I were you I'd pick up a female Bell albino and a female Rainwater albino to test out which strain your male is.

You CANNOT guarantee you can tell Bell from Tremper from Rainwater from combination albinos via the eyes. I know, I've heard some people say that the eyes will tell you the difference - I'm guessing Bell albino from your male based on a combination of the eye colour and the overall body colour - but it is not guaranteed.

The ONLY way to tell for sure is to test breed all albino-looking offspring to an albino that you know the parentage of.

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- Ssthisto






Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 4.4.8 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.0 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei