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01-05-2008, 01:16 PM
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A Pastel, or Super Pastel would be the simplest option.
A Bumble Bee is a Designer Combo using a mix of Spider's Pattern Mutation, and a Pastel's Colour Mutation.
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01-05-2008, 01:18 PM
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best/cheapest way to produce bees is spider x super pastel, it's really not worth bothering with spider x pastel, plus bees are that cheap now you may as well just buy one, i'd seriously consider it.
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01-05-2008, 01:24 PM
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The price of a Super Pastel and a Spider, is approximately the same price as a BumbleBee.
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01-05-2008, 01:33 PM
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Yes that was my point, you'll get a bee for 1000-1500 easily, and a nice spuer pastel and spider could easily cost that, going down the spider x pastel route is like roulette, you may never hatch a bee in years of breeding.
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01-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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I know fo a breeder who had a clutch of 5 last season, hatched out 3 BumbleBees, 1 Spider and 1 Pastel from a Spider x Pastel Breeding. Talk about luck!
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01-05-2008, 02:17 PM
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yeah it does happen.
I know someone with a pair of het pieds that have produced 100% pieds in every clutch for four years, which is every clutch that pairing has ever produced. Never less than five eggs and never anything but 100% pieds!
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01-05-2008, 02:21 PM
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01-05-2008, 02:27 PM
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yep...and some people get everyones!
 It was just pure luck, he put the het male accross several het females, just that one pair that never seemingly let him down, 4 clutches 20 pieds no hets from 100% het x 100% het breeding. Talk about value for money!
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