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Old 07-05-2008, 08:42 PM
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Seeing as the seller in the classified section is unwilling to provide any information regarding the F2 Fire, does anybody have any information/documentation about them?

As far as I'm concerned, it's just a nice Fire.
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Using the word 'Super' probably gave the wrong impression. Second generation is a bit better but it does seem to be line bred. Or selective. You get better Pastels from a Pastel x Pastel pairing (Not to be confused with Super Pastels - I mean simply the Pastels produced in the same clutch).

Much like Mojave and Yellow Belly.
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and that is all its billed as....... no one here mentioned genetics apart from the way they are repetedly reproduced,,, fire x fire, and nothing else.
look at the pics and then look at a "normal fire",,, and if ya need more pics ill happily show my collection of fires, and F2's to show the comparison,, (i only have 16 or so) the name is just given to the unique way they look, not like a normal fire,,,, and the price reflects the role of the dice we take......

why not join a royal python morph forum and not just a general herp one and learn something....

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Old 07-05-2008, 08:53 PM
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and that is all its billed as....... no one here mentioned genetics apart from the way they are repetedly reproduced,,, fire x fire, and nothing else.
look at the pics and then look at a "normal fire",,, and if ya need more pics ill happily show my collection of fires, and F2's to show the comparison,, (i only have 16 or so) the name is just given to the unique way they look, not like a normal fire,,,, and the price reflects the role of the dice we take......

why not join a royal python morph forum and not just a general herp one and learn something....

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And all I am stating, is that there is no actual documentation showing any relation to an F2.

Yes they do look very different, and I must say, very nice, but I am only trying to find out more about it, not shoot you down.

So....If I had 2 Normal Fires from different lines, bred them together...I would in theory get a Black Eyed Leucistic, Fires and Normals.

If the Fires produced from this clutch looked a bit different, would they then just be dubbed as F2 Fires?
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Using the word 'Super' probably gave the wrong impression. Second generation is a bit better but it does seem to be line bred. Or selective. You get better Pastels from a Pastel x Pastel pairing (Not to be confused with Super Pastels - I mean simply the Pastels produced in the same clutch).

Much like Mojave and Yellow Belly.
I understand completely where you are coming from, but why is a Fire different?

Why does the Fire gain "F2" Status yet any other morphs is still just a Pastel or just a Mojave.
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I understand completely where you are coming from, but why is a Fire different?

Why does the Fire gain "F2" Status yet any other morphs is still just a Pastel or just a Mojave.
i personally would have thought they would just be fires again cause there is obviously going to be pattern variations as always regardless of which morph.

You could apply the same thing to yellow bellies then because typically from a yellow belly x yellow belly the resulting offspring could be ivory(super) yellow bellies and normals so my question would be would you then call the yellow belly offspring F2 yellow bellies because its the same thing with the fires.
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i personally would have thought they would just be fires again cause there is obviously going to be pattern variations as always regardless of which morph.

You could apply the same thing to yellow bellies then because typically from a yellow belly x yellow belly the resulting offspring could be ivory(super) yellow bellies and normals so my question would be would you then call the yellow belly offspring F2 yellow bellies because its the same thing with the fires.

That's exactly what I'm getting at, either way, proven or disproven.
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That's exactly what I'm getting at, either way, proven or disproven.
thats just the way it looks to me anyway i had a look on nerds site earlier and there is nothing to suggest theres an F2 class offspring just merely an explanation how the genetics are like i posted.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:21 PM
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thats just the way it looks to me anyway i had a look on nerds site earlier and there is nothing to suggest theres an F2 class offspring just merely an explanation how the genetics are like i posted.

Yup, I've trawled the net since the add was posted the other day, and have found nothing at all.
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and just because Kevin @ nerd isnt mentioning the F2 that makes it false does it ??

its not the same as yallow belly from yellow parents lmao,,,, LOOK AT THE PICS... and its not a line breeding thing either,,,,,, thats the same as stating from fire x fire ya get fires,,, yes we all know that,,, but you also get the chance of an F2 fire,, look at the pics,,,,,, and its not a line breeding thing either,,,,,,

best thing guys is to sit back and watch the fire market,,,, you seee
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