just thinking. what would happen if you breed a mojave to a fire? i ges a pale colour mojave, then say you had 2 of these and breed them together? some mojaves , fires, blue eyed lucy, black eyed lucy and somthing that would both blue and black in it? has it been done ?

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No it hasnt been done and i dont know how you could tell the black and blue eyed lucy.

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Mojave x Fire would give, Fires,Mojaves,FireJaves and Normals.

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Eye colour??? Presumably blues would have blue eyes and blacks would have blacks....

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If you bred two fire Mojaves together you'd get:

Some normals (neither fire nor mojave)
Some fires
Some mojaves
Some more Fire Mojaves
Some black-eyed leucistics
Some Super Mojaves (which I refuse to call leucistic - they are not dark eyed WHITE snakes)
And almost certainly some "these look like actual blue-eyed leucistics" which will be homozygous fire, homozygous mojave.

I'm willing to bet that the "blue eyed leucistic" trait changes the eye colour at a stage of the process before the black eyed leucistic does (since it reduces/changes the pigment in the eye) and therefore a double leucistic would probably look blue-eyed. It might have DIFFERENT blue eyes, though.

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Colubrids: 3.5.15 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

You can bet your bottom dollar fire mojaves (call them what you will) will be smoking) I doubt the two genes will be compatible in the sense that you'll get a white snake but fire does aweseom things to anythign it touches.

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I think the same, I don't believe you could/would get a 'one black one blue eye' etc, I doubt you would visually be able to tell the difference either, it would more than likely just be 'another white snake', FireJaves have been made though.

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No i ment with a super fire super mojo.

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Though I am only guessing, I would assume that a super fire super mojave would be:

Cleaner white head than a super mojave because of the super fire.
Fewer yellow blotches than a poor-quality super fire because of the super mojave.
Blue or blue-grey eyes from the super mojave (because super mojave 'breaks' the pigment production)

That said, the blue-eyed white snake you get might not look like a Lesser/Lesser Blue Eyed Leucistic because of the super fire influence...

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Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.15 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

aye its confusing !!!
And i dont see the point other than it can produce all fire mojaves.

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