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Old 13-05-2008, 01:59 PM
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Default Hypomelanistic x Hypomelanistic

ok so im rubbish at genetics but what would Hypomelanistic x Hypomelanistic give me!

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Old 13-05-2008, 02:00 PM
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if you are on about boas you will get

normals
hypos
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Depends completely on the species you're talking about - in some species hypo is recessive, in some species it's codominant/incomplete dominant and in some species it's dominant.

Boas, it's dominant (and you'd get normals and hypo animals who may be heterozygous or homozygous).

Leopard geckos it's codominant (and you'd get some normals, some hypos and some super hypos).

Royal pythons and corns it's recessive (and you'd get all hypos).
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depends very muhc on the species.

Hypo in corns is recessive, in leos and boas it's co dominant or dominant.

For anything recessive it's simply hypo x hypo = more hypos for boas it's as luke said.
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Old 13-05-2008, 08:25 PM
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sorry i ment to put ITS FOR CORNS and is HYPO TYPE A!!!

so i would have a deffinate offspring of always het hypo type a???
or simpler all hatchlings would look and carry the hypo type a gene/characteristics???

also how much are you looking at getting for one of these hatchlings???

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Old 13-05-2008, 09:28 PM
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If it's for corns and you're specifically referring to Hypo A (AKA "hypo" - all other hypo-effect genes have their own names) then crossing a visual Hypo A to another visual Hypo A will produce nothing but VISUAL Hypo A - not hets

That's because it's a recessive - an animal that shows the gene does not have a normal "not hypo" gene to give to any of its offspring.

Hypo isn't an amazingly rare or expensive gene - I'd expect to pay about the same as I'd pay for a snow to be honest.
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which would be £50-60???

so from a hypo type A offspring could i get a bloodred??? if so HOW!!
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Old 13-05-2008, 09:48 PM
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could you mate the hypo type A offspring to a creamsicle??? what would that make???
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No, you couldn't get a bloodred out of a hypo unless the hypo was het for bloodred and BRED to a bloodred or het bloodred. That's a different gene, and if the animal doesn't carry it, you won't get visual offspring.

If you bred the hypo to a creamsicle you'd get all Rootbeer het hypo and Amel (AKA "het cinnamon and creamsicle") but these would not be pure cornsnakes - they'd have known Great Plains Ratsnake heritage.
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:37 AM
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so basically what i would now like to know how would i get a pieside corn from the hypo (this is probs a really dumbass question) would i have to bree her to a pieside??? if that isnt possible what would be the nicest (not nesseserially the most expensive) morph i could get from a hypo???
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