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Old 14-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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Who is the authority when it comes to corn snake allele names (as in when referring to genotype)? I know Ian's vivarium has allocated allele names but I don't imagine that these are the standard format? Are there similar authorities for other commonly kept species such as royals, boas and leos? Or do people just generally make it up as they go along ?
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There's no authority, just people making it up as they go along and use their own favourite names.

Ian's vivarium I believe uses the format in the corn snake morph guide, which is the author's own personal notation.
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There's no authority, just people making it up as they go along and use their own favourite names.

Ian's vivarium I believe uses the format in the corn snake morph guide, which is the author's own personal notation.
Fair enough ...I have seen quite a few different annotations and wasn't sure if one was regarded more highly for being published or such like. Ah, well.
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H. B. Bechtel did most of the work that has been published in refereed scientific journals. Though as far as I can remember, the only mutants he worked on in corn snakes were amelanistic, anerythristic, and motley.

As for the symbol useage, check sections 1 and 3.1 at MGI_4.01 - Rules for Nomenclature of Genes, Genetic Markers, Alleles, and Mutations in Mouse and Rat

These guidelines were made by professional geneticists for the mouse and rat genetics workers. In my opinion, people working with reptile genetics should follow those guidelines. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. And there is more literature on rats and mice than on any other two species of vertebrates. Numbers give the mouse and rat people an advantage as the various competing sets of guidelines are slowly brought into a common mold. The Cornsnake Morph Guide has symbols for more mutants and the symbols are closer to the rat and mouse guidelines than any other corn snake symbol set that I have seen.
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H. B. Bechtel did most of the work that has been published in refereed scientific journals. Though as far as I can remember, the only mutants he worked on in corn snakes were amelanistic, anerythristic, and motley.

As for the symbol useage, check sections 1 and 3.1 at MGI_4.01 - Rules for Nomenclature of Genes, Genetic Markers, Alleles, and Mutations in Mouse and Rat

These guidelines were made by professional geneticists for the mouse and rat genetics workers. In my opinion, people working with reptile genetics should follow those guidelines. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. And there is more literature on rats and mice than on any other two species of vertebrates. Numbers give the mouse and rat people an advantage as the various competing sets of guidelines are slowly brought into a common mold. The Cornsnake Morph Guide has symbols for more mutants and the symbols are closer to the rat and mouse guidelines than any other corn snake symbol set that I have seen.
Uh huh, I think that is a fair notation (I haven't read The Cornsnake Morph Guide to comment). In that example the annotation would be (gene)+ for wildtype and (gene)- for mutant rather than whats shown on Ian's Vivarium.
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i know this is digging up an old thread, but I missed it the first time around!

The notation on my site is lifted lock stock and barrel from the Corn Snake Morph Guide by Charles Pritzel. I've also seen it used on a (very) small handful of other sites.

The reason I chose this system is purely because I found it the easiest to remember, and thought it is the easiest to expand on especially if new morphs are found to be allelic with existing morphs.
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