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Old 10-07-2008, 10:57 AM
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have a look at this pic...he came from a petshop, therefor nothing is know of his lineage, I've allways thought of him as a Shct but looking at web sites he looks like a macksnow ghoast, oppinions please

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Old 10-07-2008, 11:23 AM
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I just had a look through some 'google' images & found some with heavy tail spotting & some with 'banded' tail spotting. Also some had different head spotting with yellow base colour & white base colour on others. I think even the eyes were similar too so I think breeding to a SHCT would be the only way. If you get Mack Snows it's definatley a mack ghost - as I understand SHCT X MACK = MACK GHOST (?)



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Old 10-07-2008, 11:28 AM
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have a look here

Mack Leopard Geckos - Morphology

you can see the simularities..

I have two (hopefully) female shct het albinos, I'll mate him with one of then next year
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There isnt anyway of knowing for sure just by looking at him he looks like a normal SHCT to me and if he is from a petshop i very much doubt its a mack snow ghost.

Plus in the description it says....

"Ghost leopard Geckos are Hypo Leopard geckos that do not exhibit the carrot tail or tangerine coloration."


Yours has a nice carrot tail....
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:48 AM
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There isnt anyway of knowing for sure just by looking at him he looks like a normal shct to me and if he is from a petshop i very much doubt its a mack snow ghost.
The more I look at the forth pic on Mack Leopard Geckos - Morphology

the more confused I get, I will have only two avaible females to put him to for next season, a Shct and a normal, I'll just have to wait and see what happens

I've allways thought he was shct so Im not dissapionted in anyway, just trying to get all my gex labled correctly

thanks

edit: just re-read your post about the CT....shct he is then

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looks like a shct....am mack ghost would look like this




and would most likely not have the carrot tail unless the carrot tail gene had been introduced.
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:02 PM
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The mack snow thing is so confusing so if you bred a mack snow and SHCTB you could get, mack snows, hypo snows, creamsicles and mack snow ghosts?
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:45 PM
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creamsicles, as far as I know are a line bred trait although they are hypo x mack snow it takes a few gens to get proper colouring.

hypo mack snow IS sort of creamsicle so you wouldn't get both.

From what I've read about 'ghost' leopard geckos it's just where they seem to be in shed but are not. But then looking on google earlier one site clearly stated SHTCT x mack snow = Ghost. This must be a 'super' hypo mack snow trait ?

but again this doesn't make sense as line breeding for creamsicles would surely make super hypo macks & SHSS anyway ?

so is creamsicle line bred specifically with hypo only ? rather than super hypo being involved.

I have now confused myself & probably everyone else.

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Old 10-07-2008, 07:11 PM
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Yes I agree I am totally confused because The Urban Gecko sells hypo snows so they have to be a morph in their own right if they sell them being big breeders.

I have a SHCTB and an Albino het for Raptor they are my males and my females are a Bell Albino and a Mack snow poss het for albino and patternless and I have no idea what to bred what to next year
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0.1.0 Bell Albino - Bella - 0.1.0 Jungle Mack Snow - Twiggy
0.1.0 TUG Snow - Jigglypuff - 0.1.0 Blazing Blizzard - Willow
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:25 PM
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I would go for;

SHCTB x Bell = Hypos het bell. Then try for Hybinos.

Albino het raptor x Mack snow poss het albino & patty = Albinos, eclipses, Mack snows, I think with a mixture of patterning (jungle,stripe, reverse stripe).

I may not be 100% on that part as I still find raptor crosses slightly confusing as they're made up of different genetic & pattern morphs.
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