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Old 03-07-2009, 10:55 AM
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I don't know of any red/ruby-tinted RW supersnows but, that could be because they are the least common/popular strain of albino supersnow cross and so are rather hard to find. Took me ages to find "Avalanche", my SSRWP. The theory about them all supposedly having to have red tint in the eyes sounds very plausable... and it could be the case - just that the red tint in certain examples is so tiny that no matter how much you try to emphasis it in photos, you still cant see it. Or, it could be that they truely are jet black - where somehow in certain SS crosses, the SS eye trait manages to mask out the red albino eye effect entirely. Or it could be something else entirely
Oooh the possibilities, However, all 3 forms of albinism in Leopard geckos stops the production of melanin, so how can the black pigment be there?
This all confuses me really, doesn't seem right.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:02 AM
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Sorry but they are not hard to find at all.Maybe there isn't many in the uk but they can be found quite easy.We have 6 baby's off our lot take a look here for one Leopard Gecko ~ Available
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Sorry but they are not hard to find at all.Maybe there isn't many in the uk but they can be found quite easy.We have 6 baby's off our lot take a look here for one Leopard Gecko ~ Available
Can see no Supersnow Rainwaters on there - couple of hets but no actual examples. Have I missed spotting them? If so, sorry.

I know over in the US and for that matter in parts of Europe, Rainwaters are much more popular than here in the UK.
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Oooh the possibilities, However, all 3 forms of albinism in Leopard geckos stops the production of melanin, so how can the black pigment be there?
This all confuses me really, doesn't seem right.
I could twist this around a bit....

Snake-eyed RAPTORs.... Go on, eclipse trait is there... it's an albino. And what colour is the solid coloured part of the eye?
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I could twist this around a bit....

Snake-eyed RAPTORs.... Go on, eclipse trait is there... it's an albino. And what colour is the solid coloured part of the eye?
Bah, I had forgotten about that. Note to self: Think before posting.

Still wierd though.
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Bah, I had forgotten about that. Note to self: Think before posting.

Still wierd though.
With the Supersnow Albinos and RAPTORs, you could make a case of the albino trait not blanketing the eyes much at all in some cases and completely blanketing in others (stopping all eye pigment - causing brilliant red)... except I've never seen a brilliant red eyed supersnow albino - Ruby, yes... but never brilliant red. Maybe with supersnows, the eclipse effect isnt blocked out at all by the albino mutation in some cases and only partly blocked out in others (causing black through to ruby eye colouring)?

With RAPTOR eyes, you can get very bright red, all the way down to quite deep ruby. I assume this is down to how much the albino trait is stopping eye pigment production. The theory falls apart when you look at snake-eyes though. Surely the same should be happening with the solid part of the snake-eye, given it's the same genetic mutation that causes a full solid eye in a RAPTOR... but then, it most certainly is a red colour. Something else is happening with snake eyes to prevent the red happening.

And if anyone wants to explain how this happens sometimes with RAPTOR eyes... I'd love to know

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I am at work, so answers are short today. Just wanted to express my desire to own the Leo in the picture
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