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Old 31-10-2009, 09:08 PM
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Question Mack snow Enigma

Hi, I have a male and female Mack snow enigmas.
Would some kind person show me all the possible outcomes of mating them together and the liklyhood.
Thanks,
Rich
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Old 31-10-2009, 09:21 PM
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If both enigmas are one copy then....
6.25% Normal
6.25% Super Snow
6.25% Wnigma 2 copy
6.25% Super Snow enigma 2 copy
12.5% Enigma 1copy
12.5% Mac k Snow
25% MAck snow enigma 1copy
12.5% Mack snow enigma 2copy
12.5% Super snow enigma 1copy

There will be no difference between the one and two copy enigmas visually
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Old 31-10-2009, 09:26 PM
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Thanks for that.
Sorry I am so thick but what is '1 copy'
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Old 31-10-2009, 09:53 PM
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Before breeding two Enigma's together you really need to be 100% sure.
None of the breeder Enigma's used for breeding are expressing the Enigma syndrome(Spinning,star gazing,flipping).

[1C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow X [1C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow = .

Normal.
[1C]Enigma.
[2C]Enigma.
Snow SPLIT Super snow.
[1C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow.
[2C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow.
Super snow.
[1C]Super snow enigma.
[2C]Super snow enigma.
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[2C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow X [1C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow = .

[1C]Enigma.
[2C]Enigma.
[1C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow.
[2C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow.
[1C]Super snow enigma.
[2C]Super snow enigma.
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[2C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow X [2C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow = .

[2C]Enigma.
[2C]Snow enigma SPLIT Super snow.
[2C]Super snow enigma.
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[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).

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Old 31-10-2009, 10:12 PM
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Jesus gazz, we agree on something at last, Haha,

Ive had bad stargazing/spinning offspring with Enigma to non Enigma pairings, and non of the Enigma parents showed any problems,
I,M,O, breeding Enigma to Enigma not a really good idea,
I even emailed Ron Tremper and Steve Sykes about doing it and they both said they wouldnt do it now because of the problems, but they said they have thought about it in the past,
which reading between the lines I think they probably have done so and seen the results, (but thats my opinion)
but there are some on the forum who disagree, which is their choice.

p/s when gazz says split it means het!.
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Old 31-10-2009, 11:12 PM
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gazz your getting stupid now, the OP know his animals as mack snow enigmas.

Why go and confuse things???

your "help" is beginning not to help now.....

That term split has about as much chance of becoming the norm as betamax coming back...
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Old 31-10-2009, 11:49 PM
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gazz your getting stupid now, the OP know his animals as mack snow enigmas.

Why go and confuse things???

your "help" is beginning not to help now.....

That term split has about as much chance of becoming the norm as betamax coming back...

Where do Super snows come from BINGO! Macks snows.So it's easy to concluded that a Snow SPLIT Super snow = Mack snow.You don't seem to give the people of this forum much credit.Are you implying they are ?.I don't know about you but i give people a little more created than that.
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[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:25 AM
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So it's easy to concluded that a Snow SPLIT Super snow = Mack snow.
So why not just call it mack snow then.

Your seriously under estimating peoples ability yourself, do you not think people are capable of understanding that mack is the het for mack super??

you can post about "split" until your fingers bleed but i bet no one accepts it as common terminology, im still waiting for anyone else on this forum to use it,
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:35 AM
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So why not just call it mack snow then.

Your seriously under estimating peoples ability yourself, do you not think people are capable of understanding that mack is the het for mack super??

you can post about "split" until your fingers bleed but i bet no one accepts it as common terminology, im still waiting for anyone else on this forum to use it,
Sorry you'll have to speak up.I can't hear you.



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[1C]-1 Copy = (Heterozygous).
[2C]-2 Copy = (Homozygous).
Snow SPLIT Super snow = (Mack).
[1C]Snow,[2C]Snow = (TUG,GEM).
Tinted = (False eclipse).
Hyper aberrant = (Jungle).
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:20 AM
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cant we all just get used to the fact that if gazz wants to use the term split then just let him carry on using that term, hes got it written in his personal message thing if anyone doesnt understand it. it all concludes to the same thing at the end of the day and that being het, remember (this is gna be hard to put into words now) tom-ato (as the americans would call it) or tomato as we (uk citizens) would call it. so split as gazz would call it and het as the majority of people on the forum would call it (for now, im sure many other people may like the termonology on split instead of het)
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