Originally Posted by shiva&kaa123

Do the %s really work out like that? Thought it was just luck on how many you got of each one

Originally Posted by shiva&kaa123

Do the %s really work out like that? Thought it was just luck on how many you got of each one

Originally Posted by quixotic_axolotl

while you ave the numbers about right theres something I don't know if you can see..


take spider x pastel, 25% bumble bee. thats right BUT that does nto mean one in every four will be a bumble bee, you may never make one, you make get a clutch full. you can tell which one is more likely. This is on a 25% snake. Some of the double recessives you're talking ab out are 1 in 16 or 1 in 24 chances, some breeders can cross mojave's together forever and never get a single blue eyed leucistic.

Bob clarke has many thousands of animals breeding each year yet didn't produce enough leucies to sell anywhere enar the amount you would imagine.

Not trying to say don't try, it's just your approach seems very analitical/unrealistic and despite the fact you've said it's not many times seems to be only about the money. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but without a grasp of the facts I mentioned earlier it's hard ot do it right.

Lets stick with mojaves.

This year to buy a pair of hatchling mojaves it would have cost you between £800-2400 on average.

Recon on three to four years to get them upto weght, 2-3 for the male so you'll get a few mojaves out of him in the mean time.

By this point the price of mojaves will be significantly less so in order to actually make much money you'll be relying on that lesser % snake to pop out. It may happen or it may not. Say mojaves in that time head to around the £300 mark, that's a fair few snakes to sell (low clutch numbers) before your mojaves have even paid for themselves.

Taking cinnamon pastels as an example.

Genetically proven by graziani in 2002, hatchlings went on the market at at about $5000, this then shot upto about $17 000 a hatchling a couple of years later when other breeders began doing interesting things with theirs, graziani couldn't produce them fast enough at this time. A short time later here we are with cinnie hatchlings struggling to break £500. Think about it and we are still only talking a couple of breeding generations after the origingal snake was geneticall proven! $17 000 dollar peak price down to under $1000 over there now. In seven years. Some of those original CB02 graz snakes will only have had 2-3 litters!

Looking forward to some of your double recessives:

Again whikle I think you've grasped what makes what you fail to see much else. some of those snakes (baring some lunatic selling visual morphs with amazing hets) are 4-10 year breeding projects at the end of which you're still only looking at a low probabilty snake.

Most of it is in the alp of the gods, it's not simply a matter of looking at percentages and figuring out how much money you will make.

Mason