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Old 14-08-2007, 10:55 AM
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does anyone know of a good site explaining leopard gecko genetics because i really dont get it lol
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There are a few... but they're not going to tell you anything that we can't tell you here.

What don't you "get" ?
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i dont get any of it lol..ive not got any specific questions, just need to start from the beginning lol
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Ok. So... you don't know anything about genetics (at all) ?

Leopard gecko genetics doesn't work any different than any other kind of genetics, you see...
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Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
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Try this link, it helped me understand it better


someone help? leos - Not ill, just advice LOL
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Ok. So... you don't know anything about genetics (at all) ?

Leopard gecko genetics doesn't work any different than any other kind of genetics, you see...
i know a bit about royal genetics..?

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i know a bit about royal genetics..?
Ok... a recessive gene is a recessive gene is a recessive gene, no matter whether it's in pythons or peas. It works the same way no matter what species you're working with. Same goes for dominant and "codominant" (actually Incomplete Dominant in royals and leos) traits. They all have the same mechanics.

In leopard geckos, the following traits are proven recessive to wild type:
Tremper Albino
Bell Albino
Las Vegas("Rainwater") Albino
"Murphy" Patternless (aka "Leucistic")
Blizzard

The following traits are thought to be recessive, but have not been fully tested yet:
Eclipse (though this one's pretty certain)

Now, these traits have been proven "incompletely dominant" to wild type in leopard geckos:
Giant (one copy or 'het' giant = a Giant, two copies or homozygous giant = Super Giant)
Mack Snow (one copy or 'het' snow = a Mack Snow, two copies or homozygous snow = Super Snow)

The following traits are suspected to be incompletely dominant, but have not been fully tested yet:
Hypo

The "Mack Pastel" may in fact be a dominant trait - a homozygous Mack Pastel doesn't look different to a het Mack Pastel.
The "Gem Snow" trait may be dominant on its own (a homozygous Gem Snow doesn't produce Super Gem Snows) but is compatible and incompletely dominant with Mack Snows (het Gem, het Mack produces Super Snow).

I'm not quite sure what the mechanics of Tremper Patternless (aka Reverse Stripe) are, so I haven't included it here.

Lastly, you do get some selectively bred things produced by picking the "most like your goal" individuals and breeding them, then breeding the "most like" from that generation - these traits are:
Tangerine
Carrot-Tail
Linebred Snow
High Yellow

Many of the trade names are not single traits - they're combinations. For example, RAPTOR is not a single trait. In order to get a RAPTOR, you need:

2 copies Tremper albino
2 copies eclipse
Reverse Stripe
High Tangerine colouring

A Blazing Banana Blizzard would be:

2 copies Albino (any strain, so long as you've got two copies of the same strain)
2 copies Murphy Patternless
2 copies Blizzard

And a Mack Patternless would be:
2 copies Murphy Patternless
1 copy Mack Snow, one copy "not Mack".
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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus
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ok thanks for that..ill just try and get my head round it all now lol
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