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Old 14-08-2007, 09:17 PM
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Smile jungle X anerythristic

what about breeding a jungle corn with an anerythristic corn? just wondering as i have a jungle corn but wife only likes one kind of reptile which is a anerythristic corn. if we wanted to breed someday what would we get?
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75% Corn 25% King Jungle hybrids het for Cornsnake Anerythristic.

The thing to remember is that a Jungle "corn" is NOT a corn snake. It's a hybrid between a California King and a Corn.

If you do intend to breed your jungle, keep in mind you probably want to use a MUCH larger female so that he doesn't get the idea that dinner comes after the date.
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hahah yeah thanks for that. will the corns just be normals?
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you wont get any pure corns..they will be hybids (75% corn/25% king as ssthisto said)..i thought thats what he meant?..but yeh it looked sorta like 75% will be corns and 25% will be kings to me too at first..
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Old 15-08-2007, 05:36 PM
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you wont get any pure corns..they will be hybids (75% corn/25% king as ssthisto said)..i thought thats what he meant?..but yeh it looked sorta like 75% will be corns and 25% will be kings to me too at first..

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Old 15-08-2007, 06:37 PM
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sorry ssthisto lol

was i right though?
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sorry ssthisto lol

was i right though?
You are right.

The offspring will ALL (100%) be 75%Corn/25%King Jungle Hybrids het for cornsnake Anerythristic.

They'll be "normal" looking (for some quantity of "normal" which is NOT "cornsnake normal" but is in fact "hybrid corn/king") het for anerythristic (barring hidden hets - lots of jungles carry amel, and so do lots of corns).

Unless your Jungle is a relatively low-content king animal (more corn than king in it) you won't get anything that looks like anything other than a hybrid of corn and kingsnake - and the patterns and colours on these won't look much like a cornsnake either.

The offspring ALSO need to be labelled as Jungles... because a Jungle is NOT a pure 100% corn nor even 100% rat snake. It's part king snake, and king snakes can and do eat other snakes, even as adults.
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Old 15-08-2007, 06:55 PM
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youre pretty good at this gentics lark arent you lol
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*chuckle* Maybe a little. Part of the trick is "generalising" it - knowing that the genes work the same way whether you're talking about corns or cabbages or cats. The other part is probably because I have an eidetic, photographic memory and can memorise things like:

Cornsnake amel isn't the same gene as black rat snake amel or plains rat snake amel, but it IS the same amel as a king snake has.

With regards to Jungles, though... I have an interest in them (who would have thought you could breed a Lampropeltis king to a Pantherophis rat?) and I'd like one myself someday, though it's got to be a really exceptional one and I haven't seen THE jungle yet. I don't want an amel jungle personally - I want one of the ones that looks like a school tie, all bold broad borders on bright blotches.

Ashbosh: Do you know what your jungle's parents were? Or do you have a photo of him?
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Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
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Old 15-08-2007, 07:17 PM
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so its just like the types of genetics you need to know really, like recessive, dominant and co. dominant..and then you can apply it to anything?
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