Another corny question...

Katiexx · #1 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 06:21 PM

ok say in theory that i bred my two corns together in a few years time. What would the possible outcomes be?

Snow het hypo 50% het caramel female
Anery het hypo het amel 50% het caramel male

(they are siblings so would that cause a problem??)

Also i have a creamsicle female that i may like to try breeding off in the future. What would you suggest putting her too? or would you say that there isn't a market??

All replies very welcome indeed

Katie

eeji · #2 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 07:04 PM

Snow het hypo 50% het caramel female x Anery het hypo het amel 50% het caramel male

If nobody is het caramel:
12.50% Anerythristic het. Amel
12.50% Snow
25.00% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
25.00% Snow, het. Hypo
12.50% Ghost, het. Amel
12.50% Coral

if male is het caramel and the female isn't:
6.25% Anerythristic het. Amel
6.25% Snow
6.25% Anerythristic het. Butter
6.25% Snow, het. Caramel
12.50% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Hypo
12.50% Anerythristic het. Butter, het. Amel, het. Caramel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Amber
6.25% Ghost, het. Amel
6.25% Snow, Hypomelanistic
6.25% Ghost, het. Butter
6.25% Coral het. Caramel

if female is het caramel and the male isn't:
6.25% Anerythristic het. Amel
6.25% Snow
12.50% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Hypo
6.25% Anerythristic het. Butter
6.25% Snow, het. Caramel
12.50% Anerythristic het. Butter, het. Amel, het. Caramel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Amber
6.25% Ghost, het. Amel
6.25% Snow, Hypomelanistic
6.25% Ghost, het. Butter
6.25% Coral het. Caramel

if both are het caramel:
3.13% Anerythristic het. Amel
3.13% Snow
6.25% Anerythristic het. Butter
6.25% Snow, het. Caramel
6.25% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
6.25% Snow, het. Hypo
12.50% Anerythristic het. Butter, het. Amel, het. Caramel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Amber
3.13% Anerythristic, Caramel het. Amel
3.13% Snow, Caramel (some in USA are calling these 'Xanthic Snows')
6.25% Anerythristic, Caramel het. Amel, het. Hypo
6.25% Snow, Caramel het. Hypo
3.13% Ghost, het. Amel
3.13% Coral
6.25% Ghost, het. Butter
6.25% Coral het. Caramel
3.13% Anerythristic, Caramel, Hypomelanistic het. Amel
3.13% Snow, Amber

A proper rainbow clutch!

hth

Katiexx · #3 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 07:06 PM

crikey that's alot to take in. thanks for that!

Katie

captaincaveman · #4 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eeji

Snow het hypo 50% het caramel female x Anery het hypo het amel 50% het caramel male

If nobody is het caramel:
12.50% Anerythristic het. Amel
12.50% Snow
25.00% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
25.00% Snow, het. Hypo
12.50% Ghost, het. Amel
12.50% Coral

if male is het caramel and the female isn't:
6.25% Anerythristic het. Amel
6.25% Snow
6.25% Anerythristic het. Butter
6.25% Snow, het. Caramel
12.50% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Hypo
12.50% Anerythristic het. Butter, het. Amel, het. Caramel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Amber
6.25% Ghost, het. Amel
6.25% Snow, Hypomelanistic
6.25% Ghost, het. Butter
6.25% Coral het. Caramel

if female is het caramel and the male isn't:
6.25% Anerythristic het. Amel
6.25% Snow
12.50% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Hypo
6.25% Anerythristic het. Butter
6.25% Snow, het. Caramel
12.50% Anerythristic het. Butter, het. Amel, het. Caramel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Amber
6.25% Ghost, het. Amel
6.25% Snow, Hypomelanistic
6.25% Ghost, het. Butter
6.25% Coral het. Caramel

if both are het caramel:
3.13% Anerythristic het. Amel
3.13% Snow
6.25% Anerythristic het. Butter
6.25% Snow, het. Caramel
6.25% Anerythristic het. Amel, het. Hypo
6.25% Snow, het. Hypo
12.50% Anerythristic het. Butter, het. Amel, het. Caramel, het. Hypo
12.50% Snow, het. Amber
3.13% Anerythristic, Caramel het. Amel
3.13% Snow, Caramel (some in USA are calling these 'Xanthic Snows')
6.25% Anerythristic, Caramel het. Amel, het. Hypo
6.25% Snow, Caramel het. Hypo
3.13% Ghost, het. Amel
3.13% Coral
6.25% Ghost, het. Butter
6.25% Coral het. Caramel
3.13% Anerythristic, Caramel, Hypomelanistic het. Amel
3.13% Snow, Amber

A proper rainbow clutch!

hth

Im glad you did that one dude

eeji · #5 (**permalink**) 03-09-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincaveman

Im glad you did that one dude

i cheated!

Katiexx · #6 (**permalink**) 04-09-2007, 06:31 PM

:o u cheated?

Ok then guys what would you recommend putting to my Snow het hypo 50%het caramel female, to make the best of her genes? (not for a fair few years yet!) N what would make an interesting choice of partner for my creamsicle female? (i'm clueless. sorry lol)

Katie

eeji · #7 (**permalink**) 04-09-2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katiexx

Ok then guys what would you recommend putting to my Snow het hypo 50%het caramel female, to make the best of her genes? (not for a fair few years yet!) N what would make an interesting choice of partner for my creamsicle female? (i'm clueless. sorry lol)

What colour snakes do you want to get, theres loads of possibilities with her!
My first choice though would be something with caramel in it to prove or disprove her 50% het. If you like bright snakes i'd go with a Butter (amel + caramel), if you like darker snakes then a Caramel. If you like intense colours then i'd put her with an Amber (hypo + caramel). Then if you get any hatchlings with a caramel morph you will know she is definetly 100% het caramel.

For the Creamsicle, i'd go with another creamsicle or an amel (do you know that a creamsicle is an intergrade with a Great Plains Rat Snake?)

Katiexx · #8 (**permalink**) 04-09-2007, 09:21 PM

Yeah i knew a creamsicle was a cross. which is why i was curious as to what her put her with. wasn't sure what i'd have to list the babies as. I bought her as a 'suspected creamsicle' will try to get some more pics when she's digested her food to prove or disprove that tho.

Cheers for the help

Katie

eeji · #9 (**permalink**) 04-09-2007, 10:55 PM

just checking, theres loads that don't!

creamsicle x amel will give creamsicles and would have to be sold as creamsicles.
if you put anything without amel in it to a creamsicle you get normal coloured corns x emoryi (copper, or rootbeer if you go off american names).

theres other daft names for other morphs of corn/emoryi crosses but they're not really my cup of tea so someone else will have to explain the rest!

Ssthisto · #10 (**permalink**) 05-09-2007, 07:42 AM

Hey, what's silly about:

Cinnamon - Visual Hypo Emoryi/Corn cross
Buttercream - Visual Amelanistic Caramel Emoryi/Corn cross
Icicle/Snowsicle - Visual Amelanistic Anerythristic Emoryi/Corn cross
Fudgesicle/Anerysicle - Visual Anerythristic Emoryi/Corn cross
Harvest - Visual Amel with very little dorsal white Emoryi/Corn cross (equivalent of a "Sunglow" corn)

What surprises me is that names haven't been coined for MORE of the Emoryi crosses.... I mean, people have made buttercreams, so there must be "Caramel Creams" out there somewhere. And if there's hypo Creams and anery Creams, someone must have tried a Ghost cream... but what do you call something that's liable to be white/silver and tan that's in a ghosty theme?

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