yeah that was sorta what I was thinking I think!I will have to see what happens next year! Cheers mate.

Hi Nige........

Ok so If I put My butter male to and amel stripe female what will I get ?

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hets for butter amel and stripe, depending on any hets from those snakes.

Here you go Nige

Butter x caramel
green blotched snow x coral snow
amel x amel het anery
anery(unknown genetics) x ghost
reverse okeetee x carolina motley(unknown genetics)
black x carolina(unknown genetics)
candycane x creamsicle

i thought you would get amel het for caramel and stripe with this as butter has the amel gene in it or is that what you said anyway nige and i should just shut up and go away

officially you would, thats how the programmes would put it.
you would produce both butter and caramel

eh? what am i helping you for? lol, you been doing this as long as me lol..
ok, i'll have a go...
butter to caramel....
caramels het amel...


green blotched snow to coral snow is not an easy one, its likely to be a normal snow to a coral really, so you would be looking at snows het for hypo.

reverse okeetee x carolina motley... likely to be het for amel and motley..

black to carolina? black as in anery? or is it a type of melanistic? either way they would be normal het for... whichever

candy to creamsicle, with cream not being pure corn is not straight forward, but you are likely to get amel looking snakes from this breeding.

amel to amel het anery...
all amels, 50% het anery

ok i am still on the butter cross amel stripe here so bare with me

i was trying to work out how you got butters and caramels from these parents and could not for the life of me work it out i produced punnet squares and even got ray to do one as well (hes a horticulturist and one of his specialist subjects was plant genetics so he finds punnets quite simple) and then i resorted to the corn morphs predictor

i was looking at it this way, the only way you would get caramels is if both parents carry the caramel gene which they do not (unless its a hidden het not stated) and the only way you would get butters is if both parents carried the amel and caramel gene (the amel stripe no hets is lacking the caramel gene so eliminates these from the outcome). that leaves just amel as both parents carry this and then theres the stripe which only the amel stripe has so this would be passed as a het to the offspring.

hense my outcome of amels het for caramel her for stripe

when i double checked myself on the predictor it came up with this



now i could of got completely the wrong end of the stick and you could of been talking about something else and if thats the case i will eat humble pie

Hi Nigel,what would i get if i bred a goldust mot to a striped caramel het for ultra

as it say here... HETS not VISUALS, then i added the caramel bit, which i presumed you would have taken as hets too... guess not lol..