corn morphs genetic requests.... any?? - Page 35

twodogs · #**341** (**permalink**) 15-07-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornmorphs

thats pretty good then.
i'll have to have a look at that 3rd ultramel anery.. whats is looking like?

looks ok mate fed tonight as well

cornmorphs · #**342** (**permalink**) 15-07-2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincaveman

cant you just put you ultramel mot het caramel straight to a butter motley for 25% goldust motleys?

sounds about right, there will also me ultramel mots het caramel and amels mots het caramel

cornmorphs · #**343** (**permalink**) 15-07-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twodogs

looks ok mate fed tonight as well

great stuff, coz the tail was a little crispy.. probably the best way to say it lol

asnakecalled? · #**344** (**permalink**) 17-07-2007, 08:21 PM

ok im confused again

so i now a Pastel is a selective bread ghost
but what would happen if i bread a pastel ghost motley to a normal ghost (i know they would be ghosts but would any be pastel or motley or just het motley)

Ssthisto · #**345** (**permalink**) 17-07-2007, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asnakecalled?

ok im confused again

so i now a Pastel is a selective bread ghost
but what would happen if i bread a pastel ghost motley to a normal ghost (i know they would be ghosts but would any be pastel or motley or just het motley)

Het motley (unless your ghost is het motley, in which you'd expect some visuals) but I don't know if you'd get any "pastels" out of them.

I have to admit, I don't do the "pastel" thing - most of the ghosts I've seen display varying degrees of the pastel colouring, and it's not a significant enough difference between "ghost" and "pastel ghost" for me to call it a separate morph personally.

asnakecalled? · #**346** (**permalink**) 17-07-2007, 10:48 PM

thanks for that it was the motley thing that confused me

sparkle · #**347** (**permalink**) 18-07-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornmorphs

only if you're using a female gp... will sound harsh but i wouldnt waste a female ultramel

Im going to use a female GPR snake yup... im also going to get a few more rat snakes and see what thinigs come up.. i know the corn purists dont really like that but i adore the rat/corn hybrids... and id never label them CORNS...

I also know there is a lot of debate about Rat snakes unlocking some genetics with corn morphs... i think it was white sided and also of course GPR....

can anyone tell me the proven ones, the suspected ones and the ones that people cant agree on???

Ssthisto · #**348** (**permalink**) 18-07-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkle

can anyone tell me the proven ones, the suspected ones and the ones that people cant agree on???

Basically, people SUSPECT any new morph

GPR are proven responsible for the yellowing effect in Creamsicles and the browning effect in Rootbeers - and may be responsible for some high saddle counts, but not all of them.

I've heard suspicions about Everglades/Yellow rats being the source of Bloodred and Stripe, though I've also heard of pure-looking wildcaught bloodred corns.

Ultra is suspected to have come from "White Oak" phase Grey rat snakes. This is in the process of being proved out - people are trying to find out if you get Ultramels if you cross an Amel corn to a White Oak rat.

Frosted saddles are also suspected as being from Grey rats.

If Leucistic ever shows up, people will be SURE it's come from Texas rat snakes - even if it's not.

Cinder (AKA "Z", Anerythristic C and "Ashy") has had suspicion leveled at it, though no concrete results, and the people who have pointed the finger tend to say Great Plains there too.

sparkle · #**349** (**permalink**) 18-07-2007, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssthisto

Basically, people SUSPECT any new morph

GPR are proven responsible for the yellowing effect in Creamsicles and the browning effect in Rootbeers - and may be responsible for some high saddle counts, but not all of them.

I've heard suspicions about Everglades/Yellow rats being the source of Bloodred and Stripe, though I've also heard of pure-looking wildcaught bloodred corns.

Ultra is suspected to have come from "White Oak" phase Grey rat snakes. This is in the process of being proved out - people are trying to find out if you get Ultramels if you cross an Amel corn to a White Oak rat.

Frosted saddles are also suspected as being from Grey rats.

If Leucistic ever shows up, people will be SURE it's come from Texas rat snakes - even if it's not.

Cinder (AKA "Z", Anerythristic C and "Ashy") has had suspicion leveled at it, though no concrete results, and the people who have pointed the finger tend to say Great Plains there too.

thanks for that.... this was exactly what i wanted to know at this stage...

So if you put an ultramel to a white oak rat the babies may or may not show something telling.... or would that be more likely in the F2 generation ?

and it was cinder/ashy that made me wonder about great plains again...

cheers... any other input or ideas about this would be informative and fascinating...

Ssthisto · #**350** (**permalink**) 18-07-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkle

So if you put an ultramel to a white oak rat the babies may or may not show something telling.... or would that be more likely in the F2 generation ?

What you'd actually want to do is put an amel corn - which would be known NOT to carry ultra - to a White Oak phase Grey Rat... and if you got ultramel-looking offspring, you've pretty much proven that "White Oak" in Grey Rat snakes is the same gene as "Ultra" in corns.

I remember reading somewhere that there's a type of kingsnake that has a newly discovered gene called "Peanut Butter" that works EXACTLY the same way as Ultra - hypo if it's homozygous, but 'extra hypo' when it's combined with Amel. Makes me wonder who got it first... and whether Peanut Butter is the same thing as Ultra... best way to find THAT out is combining a PB king to an Amel corn to see what happens!

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode