corn morphs genetic requests.... any?? - Page 42

Ssthisto · #**411** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Niccired

Thanks for that! its all abit complicated for me but i am abit thick!

Generally speaking, there's two ways to buy morphs:

1. Buy what you like the look of, and take what you get when you breed - which may be a lot of normals het for this-and-that-and-the-other.

2. Buy snakes based on the results you expect to get when you breed them together, and remember that your adults are just going to be what you can get.

In my experience, a LOT of people do the former but WANT the latter. And unless you've got LOADS of room... it's not the best way.

If you want to produce Amber Motleys, it doesn't make sense to buy a Coral Snow. If you want to produce Coral Snows, don't buy a Charcoal Stripe.

I have two project pairs.

One is a Coral Snow poss. het bloodred, who will be paired with a Charcoal-Anery het bloodred (poss hypo and amel). This is because I want a Granite to keep - and if I get snow bloods to sell, all the better.

The other is a pair of Anery het amel, lavender, stripe. This is because I want Lavender stripes to keep - and Glaciers/Glacier Stripes to sell.

I bought both of these pairs for their genotype - the genes they carry - not their phenotype - their outward appearance.

But, on the other hand... if I get an Amber it'll be because I want the LOOK of the snake and don't want to have to breed one myself!

Niccired · #**412** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 04:19 PM

Yeah i understand what your saying. Im getting a butter because i like them and also want a coral coz there diffrent but ive already got a ghost and a normal so i thought in the future breeding might be an option? I still have ALOT to learn on that side of things but i just think its a waste to have alot of nice snakes just sitting there not really doing much

Ssthisto · #**413** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Niccired

Yeah i understand what your saying. Im getting a butter because i like them and also want a coral coz there diffrent but ive already got a ghost and a normal so i thought in the future breeding might be an option? I still have ALOT to learn on that side of things but i just think its a waste to have alot of nice snakes just sitting there not really doing much

Well, a ghost to a coral snow will produce Ghosts het Amel.

But generally, if you mix two different morphs without carefully planning it out, you're in for lots of little normals

Niccired · #**414** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 04:36 PM

im glad i asked now! I didnt realise how much planning was involved! At least now i wont go out buying loads of snakes then have nothing to do with them!

I was thinking of getting a snow could this be a good match with any of them?

Ssthisto · #**415** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 04:39 PM

Well, a Coral Snow is genetically a snow (plus hypo) ... so a snow X coral snow would equal snows het hypo.

What sort of babies would you LIKE to hatch out? Do you want clutches of babies that are all different, or do you want to know that they're all going to come out the same?

Niccired · #**416** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 04:42 PM

Id like them to be different i suppose. would it just be easier buying a breeding pair with known hets?

Ssthisto · #**417** (**permalink**) 06-08-2007, 07:21 PM

If you want a clutch with all different babies, yes, you're better off buying a pair with compatible hets.

For example, if you want a coral snow because you like the looks, get an opposite-sex who's a normal het coral snow. That gives you the chance of:

Normals (poss het coral snow)
Anery (poss het hypo, amel)
Amel (poss het anery, hypo)
Hypo (poss het anery, amel)
Ghost (poss het amel)
Amel/Hypo (difficult to distinguish from Amel, poss het anery)
Snow (poss het hypo)
Coral Snow

Not bad for a single clutch

And to get a normal het for coral snow, you just need someone to have bred a Ghost to an Amel...

You could also go for things like Amel het Ghost X Ghost het amel - that'd get you a higher percentage of visually not-normal offspring.